[osol-mktg] OpenSolaris/Solaris and Hardware Partnerships

Sara Dornsife Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM
Tue Mar 20 04:32:34 PST 2007


Is there anywhere I should be linking to the HCL from?

Is Nevada going to be different?
Sara

Tim Foster wrote:
>> What I propose is a "works with", "OpenSolaris compatible" programme
>>     
>
> Interesting idea - how is this different to the Solaris Hardware
> Compatibility List ? (or are we talking about branding here - something
> that could be based off the HCL?)
>
> Should we instead be driving the community to add/ammend the Solaris
> HCL, writing tutorials or somesuch as to how they go about doing that,
> or make more prominent links to the HCL on OpenSolaris.org ?
>
> More at
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/
>
>
> Have you seen the device detection tool:
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/device_detect.html
>
> If we could get everyone using OpenSolaris to check the HCL, and then if
> their system isn't listed, to run HCTS and submit the results
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/  then others would benefit from
> that.
>
> 	cheers,
> 			tim
>
>
> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 20:00 +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
>   
>> HI,
>>
>> I'll make up a mock up of it on OpenOffice.org Calc, and spit it out
>> to a PDF then post it via this avenue (if it is of a reasonable size
>> (less than 50K))
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On 3/20/07, Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at sun.com> wrote:
>>         Would you be able to create this matrix? I think that would be
>>         very helpful to many. I can give you access to the marketing
>>         community to post it, but that doesn't seem like the right
>>         place. Any ideas?
>>         Sara
>>         
>>         
>>         
>>         Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: 
>>         > Hi,
>>         > 
>>         > With hardware compatibility, you can have a matrix; the name
>>         > of the device up the top in the title, a list of features on
>>         > the left hand side and along the top, the distributions -
>>         > basically a grid like formation.
>>         > 
>>         > So what you can do, for example, if I have an mp3 player,
>>         > for example, which distribution will it work with, and what,
>>         > if any, software do I need to download and install to make
>>         > it possible to access the device.
>>         > For classes of device, do you specify the entire class as a
>>         > single group - eg. USB Mass Storage Devices), then note
>>         > exceptions that don't work, like my Sony DSC-S85 digital
>>         > camera[1]
>>     
>
>   
>>         > In the case of my mp3 player:
>>         > 
>>         > iAudio X5 30GB
>>         > 
>>         > Feature:                          OpenSolaris
>>         > 
>>         > Ogg Playback                Yes
>>         > Ogg CD Ripping             No - Seperate
>>         >                                       download (provide
>>         >                                       link to third party
>>         >                                       packaging site)
>>         > 
>>         > Matt
>>         > 
>>         > On 3/20/07, Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at sun.com> wrote: 
>>         >         Kaiwai,
>>         >         A hardware "compatibility" program would be great.
>>         >         And your help would
>>         >         be very appreciated. The biggest issue we face with
>>         >         this is the fact
>>         >         that there isn't really an OpenSolaris distribution
>>         >         to be compatible 
>>         >         with. A hardware vendor can be compatible with
>>         >         Solaris, and the Solaris
>>         >         Ready program has been mentioned.
>>         >         
>>         >         Is there a way to put together a program that would
>>         >         indicate
>>         >         compatibility across all distributions? We can work
>>         >         on the TM once we 
>>         >         figure out the program.
>>         >         Sara
>>         >         
>>         >         
>>         >         
>>         >         Patrick Finch wrote:
>>         >         > Hi Kaiwai,
>>         >         >
>>         >         > I think the biggest challenge you face in an
>>         >         activity like this is
>>         >         > that people will always be very reluctant to
>>         >         certify to a code base. 
>>         >         > Statements of compatibility will almost always be
>>         >         made against
>>         >         > specific binary distributions, rather than to
>>         >         source code.
>>         >         >
>>         >         > Sara Dornsife has been looking into this in more
>>         >         detail, and has also 
>>         >         > been looking into an "ingredient button" style
>>         >         programme, (such as
>>         >         > "Intel inside" or the use of Tux to represent
>>         >         Linux), but I don't
>>         >         > think it is that straightforward, and at the
>>         >         moment, we only have 
>>         >         > what's called "fair use" of the OpenSolaris name
>>         >         (i.e. you can call
>>         >         > your distribution "based on OpenSolaris").
>>         >         >
>>         >         > If you can make any progress on these challenges,
>>         >         it will indeed be 
>>         >         > most valuable.
>>         >         >
>>         >         > best regards
>>         >         >
>>         >         > Patrick
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         > Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
>>         >         >> Hi,
>>         >         >>
>>         >         >> Given my limited programming skills, I thought it
>>         >         would be best to 
>>         >         >> contribute in a way which I could add 'value'.
>>         >         >>
>>         >         >> What I propose is a "works with", "OpenSolaris
>>         >         compatible" programme
>>         >         >> which is part information for customers, and part
>>         >         promotional spot/plug 
>>         >         >> for hardware vendors who either explicitly
>>         >         support our hardware through
>>         >         >> providing drivers, implicitly by the provision of
>>         >         specifications or work
>>         >         >> 'out of the box' due to the nature of the device
>>         >         itself - for example, 
>>         >         >> an mp3 player that uses UMS rather than a
>>         >         proprietary database like
>>         >         >> structure such as an iPod.
>>         >         >>
>>         >         >> The benefits will be two fold; firstly, customers
>>         >         who wish to run
>>         >         >> OpenSolaris will have a list of hardware which
>>         >         they can choose from 
>>         >         >> which is compatible 'out of the box' - ranging
>>         >         from chipsets to mp3
>>         >         >> players.
>>         >         >>
>>         >         >> The benefit to hardware vendors will be that they
>>         >         will have a visible
>>         >         >> presence in the OpenSolaris 'community'
>>         >         communication board as a form of 
>>         >         >> marketing; making their hardware more desirable
>>         >         over others,and thus
>>         >         >> push up sales of those companies willing to
>>         >         help/support the OpenSolaris
>>         >         >> community.
>>         >         >>
>>         >         >> I'm in the process of working out a programme,
>>         >         and will most a much more 
>>         >         >> detailed out line of it; but I thought it would
>>         >         be best to give a 'heads
>>         >         >> up' and whether the 'OpenSolaris' community as a
>>         >         whole are willing to
>>         >         >> get behind this programme as part of the over all
>>         >         marketing push. 
>>         >         >>
>>         >         >> Awaiting replies and input,
>>         >         >>
>>         >         >> Kaiwai Gardiner
>>         >         >>
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