[osol-mktg] OpenSolaris/Solaris and Hardware Partnerships
Sara Dornsife
Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM
Tue Mar 20 04:37:11 PST 2007
Create it and let's see if we can help it get some traction so that
others add their stuff. We can also link to the HCL, but as you say, it
is a list without a lot of meat behind it as far as the how's and why's.
Sara
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Its more than just an HCL, but a device and how to guide rolled into
> one; no use saying that, 'oh, this device works' without mentioning
> how they got it working, and if, if any, software they needed to
> download and install to exploit the hardware to its full potential.
>
> Case in point, I own a Cowon iAudio X5, where by there can be a brief
> hardware synopsis on the hardware, where to purchase it from, along
> with its capabilities; it supports OGG, mp3 and WMA< and provide links
> for software to rip music and encode in those formats.
>
> Matt
>
> On 3/20/07, *Tim Foster* <Tim.Foster at sun.com
> <mailto:Tim.Foster at sun.com>> wrote:
>
>
> > What I propose is a "works with", "OpenSolaris compatible" programme
>
> Interesting idea - how is this different to the Solaris Hardware
> Compatibility List ? (or are we talking about branding here -
> something
> that could be based off the HCL?)
>
> Should we instead be driving the community to add/ammend the Solaris
> HCL, writing tutorials or somesuch as to how they go about doing that,
> or make more prominent links to the HCL on OpenSolaris.org ?
>
> More at
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/
>
>
> Have you seen the device detection tool:
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/device_detect.html
>
> If we could get everyone using OpenSolaris to check the HCL, and
> then if
> their system isn't listed, to run HCTS and submit the results
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/ then others would benefit from
> that.
>
> cheers,
> tim
>
>
> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 20:00 +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
> > HI,
> >
> > I'll make up a mock up of it on OpenOffice.org Calc, and spit it out
> > to a PDF then post it via this avenue (if it is of a reasonable size
> > (less than 50K))
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On 3/20/07, Sara Dornsife < Sara.Dornsife at sun.com
> <mailto:Sara.Dornsife at sun.com>> wrote:
> > Would you be able to create this matrix? I think that
> would be
> > very helpful to many. I can give you access to the
> marketing
> > community to post it, but that doesn't seem like the right
> > place. Any ideas?
> > Sara
> >
> >
> >
> > Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > With hardware compatibility, you can have a matrix;
> the name
> > > of the device up the top in the title, a list of
> features on
> > > the left hand side and along the top, the distributions -
> > > basically a grid like formation.
> > >
> > > So what you can do, for example, if I have an mp3 player,
> > > for example, which distribution will it work with, and
> what,
> > > if any, software do I need to download and install to make
> > > it possible to access the device.
> > > For classes of device, do you specify the entire class
> as a
> > > single group - eg. USB Mass Storage Devices), then note
> > > exceptions that don't work, like my Sony DSC-S85 digital
> > > camera[1]
>
> > > In the case of my mp3 player:
> > >
> > > iAudio X5 30GB
> > >
> > > Feature: OpenSolaris
> > >
> > > Ogg Playback Yes
> > > Ogg CD Ripping No - Seperate
> > > download (provide
> > > link to third party
> > > packaging site)
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > On 3/20/07, Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at sun.com
> <mailto:Sara.Dornsife at sun.com>> wrote:
> > > Kaiwai,
> > > A hardware "compatibility" program would be great.
> > > And your help would
> > > be very appreciated. The biggest issue we face
> with
> > > this is the fact
> > > that there isn't really an OpenSolaris
> distribution
> > > to be compatible
> > > with. A hardware vendor can be compatible with
> > > Solaris, and the Solaris
> > > Ready program has been mentioned.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to put together a program that
> would
> > > indicate
> > > compatibility across all distributions? We can
> work
> > > on the TM once we
> > > figure out the program.
> > > Sara
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Finch wrote:
> > > > Hi Kaiwai,
> > > >
> > > > I think the biggest challenge you face in an
> > > activity like this is
> > > > that people will always be very reluctant to
> > > certify to a code base.
> > > > Statements of compatibility will almost
> always be
> > > made against
> > > > specific binary distributions, rather than to
> > > source code.
> > > >
> > > > Sara Dornsife has been looking into this in
> more
> > > detail, and has also
> > > > been looking into an "ingredient button" style
> > > programme, (such as
> > > > "Intel inside" or the use of Tux to represent
> > > Linux), but I don't
> > > > think it is that straightforward, and at the
> > > moment, we only have
> > > > what's called "fair use" of the OpenSolaris
> name
> > > (i.e. you can call
> > > > your distribution "based on OpenSolaris").
> > > >
> > > > If you can make any progress on these
> challenges,
> > > it will indeed be
> > > > most valuable.
> > > >
> > > > best regards
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> Given my limited programming skills, I
> thought it
> > > would be best to
> > > >> contribute in a way which I could add 'value'.
> > > >>
> > > >> What I propose is a "works with", "OpenSolaris
> > > compatible" programme
> > > >> which is part information for customers,
> and part
> > > promotional spot/plug
> > > >> for hardware vendors who either explicitly
> > > support our hardware through
> > > >> providing drivers, implicitly by the
> provision of
> > > specifications or work
> > > >> 'out of the box' due to the nature of the
> device
> > > itself - for example,
> > > >> an mp3 player that uses UMS rather than a
> > > proprietary database like
> > > >> structure such as an iPod.
> > > >>
> > > >> The benefits will be two fold; firstly,
> customers
> > > who wish to run
> > > >> OpenSolaris will have a list of hardware which
> > > they can choose from
> > > >> which is compatible 'out of the box' - ranging
> > > from chipsets to mp3
> > > >> players.
> > > >>
> > > >> The benefit to hardware vendors will be
> that they
> > > will have a visible
> > > >> presence in the OpenSolaris 'community'
> > > communication board as a form of
> > > >> marketing; making their hardware more
> desirable
> > > over others,and thus
> > > >> push up sales of those companies willing to
> > > help/support the OpenSolaris
> > > >> community.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm in the process of working out a programme,
> > > and will most a much more
> > > >> detailed out line of it; but I thought it
> would
> > > be best to give a 'heads
> > > >> up' and whether the 'OpenSolaris' community
> as a
> > > whole are willing to
> > > >> get behind this programme as part of the
> over all
> > > marketing push.
> > > >>
> > > >> Awaiting replies and input,
> > > >>
> > > >> Kaiwai Gardiner
> > > >>
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