[osol-mktg] OpenSolaris/Solaris and Hardware Partnerships
Sara Dornsife
Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM
Tue Mar 20 06:05:59 PST 2007
Let's ask Derek about adding links in those two places. I would think
that the driver community should have some involvement there too???
Sara
Tim Foster wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 07:32 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote:
>
>> Is there anywhere I should be linking to the HCL from?
>>
>
> Yeah, I'm scratching my head about where also - except it should be
> somewhere prominent I think.
>
> Perhaps the "System requirements" link on get.opensolaris.org ? Maybe
> also somewhere on http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ ?
>
>
>> Is Nevada going to be different?
>>
>
> Yes unfortunately, there's always new hardware being added - the HCL
> does have a separate section for Solaris Express though, which was based
> on pretty recent Nevada bits..
>
> cheers,
> tim
>
>
>> Sara
>>
>> Tim Foster wrote:
>>
>>>> What I propose is a "works with", "OpenSolaris compatible" programme
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Interesting idea - how is this different to the Solaris Hardware
>>> Compatibility List ? (or are we talking about branding here - something
>>> that could be based off the HCL?)
>>>
>>> Should we instead be driving the community to add/ammend the Solaris
>>> HCL, writing tutorials or somesuch as to how they go about doing that,
>>> or make more prominent links to the HCL on OpenSolaris.org ?
>>>
>>> More at
>>> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you seen the device detection tool:
>>> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/device_detect.html
>>>
>>> If we could get everyone using OpenSolaris to check the HCL, and then if
>>> their system isn't listed, to run HCTS and submit the results
>>> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/ then others would benefit from
>>> that.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 20:00 +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> HI,
>>>>
>>>> I'll make up a mock up of it on OpenOffice.org Calc, and spit it out
>>>> to a PDF then post it via this avenue (if it is of a reasonable size
>>>> (less than 50K))
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>> On 3/20/07, Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at sun.com> wrote:
>>>> Would you be able to create this matrix? I think that would be
>>>> very helpful to many. I can give you access to the marketing
>>>> community to post it, but that doesn't seem like the right
>>>> place. Any ideas?
>>>> Sara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > With hardware compatibility, you can have a matrix; the name
>>>> > of the device up the top in the title, a list of features on
>>>> > the left hand side and along the top, the distributions -
>>>> > basically a grid like formation.
>>>> >
>>>> > So what you can do, for example, if I have an mp3 player,
>>>> > for example, which distribution will it work with, and what,
>>>> > if any, software do I need to download and install to make
>>>> > it possible to access the device.
>>>> > For classes of device, do you specify the entire class as a
>>>> > single group - eg. USB Mass Storage Devices), then note
>>>> > exceptions that don't work, like my Sony DSC-S85 digital
>>>> > camera[1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> > In the case of my mp3 player:
>>>> >
>>>> > iAudio X5 30GB
>>>> >
>>>> > Feature: OpenSolaris
>>>> >
>>>> > Ogg Playback Yes
>>>> > Ogg CD Ripping No - Seperate
>>>> > download (provide
>>>> > link to third party
>>>> > packaging site)
>>>> >
>>>> > Matt
>>>> >
>>>> > On 3/20/07, Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at sun.com> wrote:
>>>> > Kaiwai,
>>>> > A hardware "compatibility" program would be great.
>>>> > And your help would
>>>> > be very appreciated. The biggest issue we face with
>>>> > this is the fact
>>>> > that there isn't really an OpenSolaris distribution
>>>> > to be compatible
>>>> > with. A hardware vendor can be compatible with
>>>> > Solaris, and the Solaris
>>>> > Ready program has been mentioned.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there a way to put together a program that would
>>>> > indicate
>>>> > compatibility across all distributions? We can work
>>>> > on the TM once we
>>>> > figure out the program.
>>>> > Sara
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Patrick Finch wrote:
>>>> > > Hi Kaiwai,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I think the biggest challenge you face in an
>>>> > activity like this is
>>>> > > that people will always be very reluctant to
>>>> > certify to a code base.
>>>> > > Statements of compatibility will almost always be
>>>> > made against
>>>> > > specific binary distributions, rather than to
>>>> > source code.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Sara Dornsife has been looking into this in more
>>>> > detail, and has also
>>>> > > been looking into an "ingredient button" style
>>>> > programme, (such as
>>>> > > "Intel inside" or the use of Tux to represent
>>>> > Linux), but I don't
>>>> > > think it is that straightforward, and at the
>>>> > moment, we only have
>>>> > > what's called "fair use" of the OpenSolaris name
>>>> > (i.e. you can call
>>>> > > your distribution "based on OpenSolaris").
>>>> > >
>>>> > > If you can make any progress on these challenges,
>>>> > it will indeed be
>>>> > > most valuable.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > best regards
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Patrick
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
>>>> > >> Hi,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Given my limited programming skills, I thought it
>>>> > would be best to
>>>> > >> contribute in a way which I could add 'value'.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> What I propose is a "works with", "OpenSolaris
>>>> > compatible" programme
>>>> > >> which is part information for customers, and part
>>>> > promotional spot/plug
>>>> > >> for hardware vendors who either explicitly
>>>> > support our hardware through
>>>> > >> providing drivers, implicitly by the provision of
>>>> > specifications or work
>>>> > >> 'out of the box' due to the nature of the device
>>>> > itself - for example,
>>>> > >> an mp3 player that uses UMS rather than a
>>>> > proprietary database like
>>>> > >> structure such as an iPod.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> The benefits will be two fold; firstly, customers
>>>> > who wish to run
>>>> > >> OpenSolaris will have a list of hardware which
>>>> > they can choose from
>>>> > >> which is compatible 'out of the box' - ranging
>>>> > from chipsets to mp3
>>>> > >> players.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> The benefit to hardware vendors will be that they
>>>> > will have a visible
>>>> > >> presence in the OpenSolaris 'community'
>>>> > communication board as a form of
>>>> > >> marketing; making their hardware more desirable
>>>> > over others,and thus
>>>> > >> push up sales of those companies willing to
>>>> > help/support the OpenSolaris
>>>> > >> community.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I'm in the process of working out a programme,
>>>> > and will most a much more
>>>> > >> detailed out line of it; but I thought it would
>>>> > be best to give a 'heads
>>>> > >> up' and whether the 'OpenSolaris' community as a
>>>> > whole are willing to
>>>> > >> get behind this programme as part of the over all
>>>> > marketing push.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Awaiting replies and input,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Kaiwai Gardiner
>>>> > >>
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