From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 1 00:36:05 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:36:05 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] REMINDER: Planning Meeting, 8am & 3:30pm PT Message-ID: <47F1E5E5.1070905@sun.com> Hi All- Reminder there are two planning meetings today to accommodate those in disparate time zones. All are welcomed to attend: OpenSolaris Developer Summit Planning Meeting Tuesday, April 1st 8:00am PT & 3:30pm PT (866)230-6968 Int'l Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (865)544-7856 ACCESS CODE: 2192132 From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 1 08:37:16 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:37:16 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] 4/1 8am Meeting Notes Message-ID: <47F256AC.9000305@sun.com> Attendees: Ken Mays Thorsten Frueauf John Plocher Dave Stewart Al Hopper Jesse Silver Q&A: Where's the schedule? A tentative schedule will be posted as soon as one exists. This should be available by next week's meeting. We'll also add a section to the wiki to start filling in a schedule. Will there be a computer lab available for use? No. UCSC has requested that we keep our technical needs to a minimum. Will this Summit be Indiana focused? Yes and no. An original goal for the Summit was actually getting busy planning the future of OpenSolaris releases. However, it may evolve as the community sees fit. It really depends on how we fill out the schedule. Topic Suggestion: What's the role of Sun management in the community? - Plocher From kmays2000 at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 09:15:12 2008 From: kmays2000 at gmail.com (ken mays) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:15:12 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] 4/1 8am Meeting Notes In-Reply-To: <47F256AC.9000305@sun.com> References: <47F256AC.9000305@sun.com> Message-ID: <1f7da8080804010915o26284b95ha00d9dc0918bc10c@mail.gmail.com> Based on: Batteries Not Included (The Unofficial OpenSolaris Handbook): Part Deux This was something I brought up during the meeting that I wanted to expand on. This based on the agenda for the OpenSolaris Summit 2007. I brainstormed a few topics that would help provide an academic coverage of the new OGB and the current state of affairs for Y2008. Possible Agenda ------------------------- 1. Welcome Speech, Intros, and Overview - OpenSolaris in Y2008 2. The new OGB 4. GNOME 2.22 & Xorg 7.4 status 5. The Audio framework: 4Front's OSS 6. Installation & Package Management (IPS, IMS, DCK, etc) 7. OpenSolaris Printing 8. Latest in Device Driver Support, Hardware Detection, and Laptop Support 9. Modernization 10. Defect Tracking 11. Starter Kit & Documentation 12. Distribution Construction Kit 14. Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris 15. Naming, Branding, and Trademarks 16. OpenSoalris Testing Farm & Performance tools 17. Lightning Talks & Group discussions 18. Dinner & a movie (?) Sunday ------------ 1. Summit Overview & Community feedback 2. Summit Wrap Up ~ Ken Mays -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 1 15:42:40 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:42:40 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Notes: 3:30pm Meeting 4/1 Message-ID: <47F2BA60.7010701@sun.com> No notes as no one attended today's 3:30pm meeting. Our next meeting will be Tuesday April 8th at 8:00am PT and 3:30pm PT. Thanks all, J From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 02:00:09 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:00:09 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] REMINDER: Planning Meeting, 8am & 3:30pm PT In-Reply-To: <47F1E5E5.1070905@sun.com> References: <47F1E5E5.1070905@sun.com> Message-ID: <47FB3419.1050500@sun.com> Hi All- > Reminder there are two planning meetings today to accommodate those in > disparate time zones. All are welcomed to attend: > > OpenSolaris Developer Summit Planning Meeting > Tuesday, April 8th > 8:00am PT & 3:30pm PT > > (866)230-6968 > Int'l Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (865)544-7856 > ACCESS CODE: 2192132 > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 10:57:01 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:57:01 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Schedule Message-ID: <47FBB1ED.5040707@sun.com> Hi All- The first draft of the Summit schedule has been posted to the wiki. We figured that on day one, the group would be well served by meeting in the same room. The program should be useful and interesting to all. Then, the second day we branch out into narrower topics of discussion. It's not by any means set in stone. You also will notice that there are many open slots on Sunday afternoon. Let's start a conversation on how to improve what we have, and on what we might add. Thanks! -Jesse From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 10:57:32 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:57:32 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/8 8am Message-ID: <47FBB20C.3030502@sun.com> Attendees: Thorsten Frueauf Ken Mays Jim Walker Joerg Schilling Sara Dornsife Dave Stewart Mark Carlson New Topics, Schedule Comments: Joerg: wants something about Solaris self hosting. What does it take to compile ON on OpenSolaris. Political, technical? Jesse: Original idea for summit was that it would evolve into many small and large brainstorming sessions. Are we there yet? Can we do brainstorming or are we still in need of brain dumps and synchronization? Jim: Not there yet. We still need to get informed on many topics that are imperative to our ability to build an OS together. Topics include distro constructor, bugzilla, ARC for multiple repositories. Also, perhaps classify lightning talks into Community, Project, etc... and schedule more time for them. Jesse & Sara will work on schedule and make changes. Also will start thread on list for whole group discussion. From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 11:07:50 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:07:50 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Wiki Message-ID: <47FBB476.5090404@sun.com> The URL for the Summit wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_Summit From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 12:52:57 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:52:57 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Sponsorships Message-ID: <47FBCD19.8090309@sun.com> Hi All- Just a quick note: sponsorships have been handed out. If you have requested one and for some reason have not either received an approval or been put on the waiting list, please let me know. It's always possible I missed an email, and I don't want to leave anyone hanging. Thanks, J From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 18:55:58 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:25:58 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Pitching for an open-slot Message-ID: <319ee2b10804081855j70520d21g3af92856b4331b35@mail.gmail.com> If there is sufficient interest, I would like to propose a short talk on Belenix - what is happening currently and the the future plans. I expect this to be a 30min-45min session. -Shiv From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 18:59:12 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:29:12 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Regarding the lightening talks Message-ID: <319ee2b10804081859s17722f42rbc0baacc43d68ebf@mail.gmail.com> How early should the lightening talks be proposed before the schedule? I have a couple of topics in mind if I can make some progress on them. These would need 7-10mins each. -Shiv From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 19:03:25 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:03:25 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Regarding the lightening talks In-Reply-To: <319ee2b10804081859s17722f42rbc0baacc43d68ebf@mail.gmail.com> References: <319ee2b10804081859s17722f42rbc0baacc43d68ebf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47FC23ED.7090409@sun.com> I will be sending out a call for lightning talks soon - probably next week. There has been enough interest that we'll probably have to prioritize them. Send your proposals and they'll be considered. Thanks Shiv. S h i v wrote: > How early should the lightening talks be proposed before the schedule? > > I have a couple of topics in mind if I can make some progress on them. > These would need 7-10mins each. > > -Shiv > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From stevel at opensolaris.org Tue Apr 8 19:33:01 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:33:01 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] scheduling Message-ID: <47FC2ADD.20001@opensolaris.org> Could I make a scheduling request? Could the Desktop Technologies & Nightingale not be scheduled to coincide with each other (as they currently are) since there is a fair amount of audience overlap? cheers, steve -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 19:36:02 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:36:02 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] scheduling In-Reply-To: <47FC2ADD.20001@opensolaris.org> References: <47FC2ADD.20001@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <47FC2B92.4010607@sun.com> Sure. That'll be incorporated in Schedule 2.0 Stephen Lau wrote: > Could I make a scheduling request? Could the Desktop Technologies & > Nightingale not be scheduled to coincide with each other (as they > currently are) since there is a fair amount of audience overlap? > > cheers, > steve > > From trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu Tue Apr 8 19:37:54 2008 From: trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu (Albert Lee) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:37:54 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] scheduling In-Reply-To: <47FC2ADD.20001@opensolaris.org> References: <47FC2ADD.20001@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <1207708674.8494.2.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 19:33 -0700, Stephen Lau wrote: > Could I make a scheduling request? Could the Desktop Technologies & > Nightingale not be scheduled to coincide with each other (as they > currently are) since there is a fair amount of audience overlap? > Hah! I was about to suggest the same thing! -Albert From trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu Tue Apr 8 21:44:29 2008 From: trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu (Albert Lee) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:44:29 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" Message-ID: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> Hey, the current agenda draft has my favourite series of topics -- and a mainstay of any credible desktop platform. On the multimedia front, audio/video playback and authoring were mentioned at the last summit, how users are being entertained should be looked at in more depth. I'm definitely open to doing a brief talk about the issues facing mythical "OpenSolaris gaming rig", and of course, demos (Q3, ScummVM, UT2004, HL2/Portal... suggestions welcome). Anyone else interested in taking the reins (or just helping)? -Albert From dev at opensound.com Tue Apr 8 21:49:11 2008 From: dev at opensound.com (Dev Mazumdar) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:49:11 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> Albert Lee wrote: > Hey, the current agenda draft has my favourite series of topics -- and a > mainstay of any credible desktop platform. > > On the multimedia front, audio/video playback and authoring were > mentioned at the last summit, how users are being entertained should be > looked at in more depth. > > I'm definitely open to doing a brief talk about the issues facing > mythical "OpenSolaris gaming rig", and of course, demos (Q3, ScummVM, > UT2004, HL2/Portal... suggestions welcome). Anyone else interested in > taking the reins (or just helping)? > > -Albert > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > I will be attending again and will have some new info about audio on Solaris. One of the things I'm thinking about is setting up live audio streaming servers for the conference using Solaris and OSS and Ice cast. All we need is a laptop with the software that any of the presenters can install on their systems. Anybody want to work with me on this? regards Dev Mazumdar -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4Front Technologies 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA Tel: 310 202 8530 Fax: 310 202 0496 URL: http://www.opensound.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 22:03:14 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:03:14 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> Message-ID: <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> Dev- If you could take charge of the audio streaming, I would be most indebted to you. I'm having a tough time figuring out how to arrange that by myself. Any leadership would really be fantastic. Dev Mazumdar wrote: > Albert Lee wrote: > >> Hey, the current agenda draft has my favourite series of topics -- and a >> mainstay of any credible desktop platform. >> >> On the multimedia front, audio/video playback and authoring were >> mentioned at the last summit, how users are being entertained should be >> looked at in more depth. >> >> I'm definitely open to doing a brief talk about the issues facing >> mythical "OpenSolaris gaming rig", and of course, demos (Q3, ScummVM, >> UT2004, HL2/Portal... suggestions welcome). Anyone else interested in >> taking the reins (or just helping)? >> >> -Albert >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> >> > > I will be attending again and will have some new info about audio on > Solaris. > > > One of the things I'm thinking about is setting up live audio streaming > servers for the conference using Solaris and OSS and Ice cast. All we > need is a laptop with the software that any of the presenters can > install on their systems. > > > Anybody want to work with me on this? > > > > regards > Dev Mazumdar > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Plocher at Sun.COM Tue Apr 8 22:16:24 2008 From: John.Plocher at Sun.COM (John Plocher) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:16:24 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> Message-ID: <47FC5128.4060607@Sun.Com> Dev Mazumdar wrote: > All we need is a laptop with the software If needs be, we/I can provide hardware. Tell us/me what you need. -John From dev at opensound.com Tue Apr 8 23:05:34 2008 From: dev at opensound.com (Dev Mazumdar) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:05:34 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <47FC5128.4060607@Sun.Com> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> <47FC5128.4060607@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <47FC5CAE.7050007@opensound.com> John Plocher wrote: > Dev Mazumdar wrote: >> All we need is a laptop with the software > > If needs be, we/I can provide hardware. Tell us/me what you need. > > -John > > We need to just create a pkg that anybody can download and install in 1 click and it starts broadcasting. All laptops have mic port so we should be able to connect the laptop to the a/v box and we should be off. Let me put something together this weekend. regards Dev -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4Front Technologies 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA Tel: 310 202 8530 Fax: 310 202 0496 URL: http://www.opensound.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Linh.Hoang at Sun.COM Wed Apr 9 13:47:12 2008 From: Linh.Hoang at Sun.COM (Linh Hoang) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:47:12 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <47FC5CAE.7050007@opensound.com> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> <47FC5128.4060607@Sun.Com> <47FC5CAE.7050007@opensound.com> Message-ID: <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> Hi Dev, I'm wondering if we also need or want to have a video feed. Is there a software that can capture the screen and just broadcast to the internet? I'm thinking of something similar to VNC with no remote control permission. I could help you with getting an ice server online and hosting it at UCSC if you need one. From Jesse's minutes, it seems we don't have computer lab access. I have few old Sun machines (enterprise 1, ultra sparc 1, and giant CRT monitors etc) that I could bring out to the courtyard. I also have a few switches and a wireless router that I could help setup. Baskin has two wireless networks but I don't think you get in as non-student. Sorry I forgot to introduce myself. I'm a graduate student at UCSC. I work with campus ambassadors to disseminate Sun technologies. Dev Mazumdar wrote: > John Plocher wrote: > >> Dev Mazumdar wrote: >> >>> All we need is a laptop with the software >>> >> If needs be, we/I can provide hardware. Tell us/me what you need. >> >> -John >> >> >> > We need to just create a pkg that anybody can download and install in 1 > click and it starts broadcasting. > > All laptops have mic port so we should be able to connect the laptop to > the a/v box and we should be off. > > Let me put something together this weekend. > > > > regards > Dev > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 4Front Technologies > > 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA > Tel: 310 202 8530 Fax: 310 202 0496 URL: http://www.opensound.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From stevel at opensolaris.org Wed Apr 9 13:58:27 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:58:27 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> <47FC5128.4060607@Sun.Com> <47FC5CAE.7050007@opensound.com> <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> Message-ID: <47FD2DF3.7050803@opensolaris.org> We can use ustream.tv for this. I've used it to webcast devcamps before (and record them for later viewing) and it works fantastically with any old machine and a webcam. cheers, steve Linh Hoang wrote: > Hi Dev, > > I'm wondering if we also need or want to have a video feed. Is there a > software that can capture the screen and just broadcast to the internet? > I'm thinking of something similar to VNC with no remote control > permission. I could help you with getting an ice server online and > hosting it at UCSC if you need one. > > From Jesse's minutes, it seems we don't have computer lab access. I > have few old Sun machines (enterprise 1, ultra sparc 1, and giant CRT > monitors etc) that I could bring out to the courtyard. I also have a few > switches and a wireless router that I could help setup. Baskin has two > wireless networks but I don't think you get in as non-student. > > Sorry I forgot to introduce myself. I'm a graduate student at UCSC. I > work with campus ambassadors to disseminate Sun technologies. > > > > > Dev Mazumdar wrote: > >> John Plocher wrote: >> >> >>> Dev Mazumdar wrote: >>> >>> >>>> All we need is a laptop with the software >>>> >>>> >>> If needs be, we/I can provide hardware. Tell us/me what you need. >>> >>> -John >>> >>> >>> >>> >> We need to just create a pkg that anybody can download and install in 1 >> click and it starts broadcasting. >> >> All laptops have mic port so we should be able to connect the laptop to >> the a/v box and we should be off. >> >> Let me put something together this weekend. >> >> >> >> regards >> Dev >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 4Front Technologies >> >> 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA >> Tel: 310 202 8530 Fax: 310 202 0496 URL: http://www.opensound.com >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 9 14:17:58 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:17:58 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> <47FC5128.4060607@Sun.Com> <47FC5CAE.7050007@opensound.com> <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> Message-ID: <47FD3286.7010209@sun.com> Thanks Linh for getting involved. Your participation helps immensely. Linh Hoang wrote: > Hi Dev, > > I'm wondering if we also need or want to have a video feed. Is there a > software that can capture the screen and just broadcast to the internet? > I'm thinking of something similar to VNC with no remote control > permission. I could help you with getting an ice server online and > hosting it at UCSC if you need one. > > From Jesse's minutes, it seems we don't have computer lab access. I > have few old Sun machines (enterprise 1, ultra sparc 1, and giant CRT > monitors etc) that I could bring out to the courtyard. I also have a few > switches and a wireless router that I could help setup. Baskin has two > wireless networks but I don't think you get in as non-student. > > Sorry I forgot to introduce myself. I'm a graduate student at UCSC. I > work with campus ambassadors to disseminate Sun technologies. > > > > > Dev Mazumdar wrote: > >> John Plocher wrote: >> >> >>> Dev Mazumdar wrote: >>> >>> >>>> All we need is a laptop with the software >>>> >>>> >>> If needs be, we/I can provide hardware. Tell us/me what you need. >>> >>> -John >>> >>> >>> >>> >> We need to just create a pkg that anybody can download and install in 1 >> click and it starts broadcasting. >> >> All laptops have mic port so we should be able to connect the laptop to >> the a/v box and we should be off. >> >> Let me put something together this weekend. >> >> >> >> regards >> Dev >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 4Front Technologies >> >> 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA >> Tel: 310 202 8530 Fax: 310 202 0496 URL: http://www.opensound.com >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu Wed Apr 9 14:44:46 2008 From: trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu (Albert Lee) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:44:46 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> <47FC5128.4060607@Sun.Com> <47FC5CAE.7050007@opensound.com> <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> Message-ID: <1207777486.1541.33.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 13:47 -0700, Linh Hoang wrote: > Hi Dev, > > I'm wondering if we also need or want to have a video feed. Is there a > software that can capture the screen and just broadcast to the internet? > I'm thinking of something similar to VNC with no remote control > permission. I could help you with getting an ice server online and > hosting it at UCSC if you need one. To do live screencasts, you can use ffmpeg with "x11grab" as the source, and stream with ffserver. GNOME's Istanbul (not yet packaged, AFAIK) can stream to icecast2, so that may be another option. For live streaming, webcams might be sufficient since there is usually some degree of off-screen activity. > From Jesse's minutes, it seems we don't have computer lab access. I > have few old Sun machines (enterprise 1, ultra sparc 1, and giant CRT > monitors etc) that I could bring out to the courtyard. I also have a few > switches and a wireless router that I could help setup. Baskin has two > wireless networks but I don't think you get in as non-student. Someone set up a public AP last year, that will probably happen again although it wouldn't hurt to have more networking stuff. I think most people will have access to laptops, so the old SPARCs shouldn't be needed. -Albert From dev at opensound.com Wed Apr 9 16:27:41 2008 From: dev at opensound.com (Dev Mazumdar) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:27:41 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Agenda topics: "Multimedia & Gaming on OpenSolaris" In-Reply-To: <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> References: <1207716269.8494.45.camel@localhost> <47FC4AC7.6090203@opensound.com> <47FC4E12.20009@sun.com> <47FC5128.4060607@Sun.Com> <47FC5CAE.7050007@opensound.com> <47FD2B50.3030402@sun.com> Message-ID: <47FD50ED.9070408@opensound.com> Linh Hoang wrote: > Hi Dev, > > I'm wondering if we also need or want to have a video feed. Is there a > software that can capture the screen and just broadcast to the internet? > I'm thinking of something similar to VNC with no remote control > permission. I could help you with getting an ice server online and > hosting it at UCSC if you need one. > > From Jesse's minutes, it seems we don't have computer lab access. I > have few old Sun machines (enterprise 1, ultra sparc 1, and giant CRT > monitors etc) that I could bring out to the courtyard. I also have a few > switches and a wireless router that I could help setup. Baskin has two > wireless networks but I don't think you get in as non-student. > > Sorry I forgot to introduce myself. I'm a graduate student at UCSC. I > work with campus ambassadors to disseminate Sun technologies. > > > Hi Linh, I think video feeds will require things like realvideo producer which is not yet available for sparc - I don't think we may have the bandwidth to do live video streaming however I do believe that it may be possible to take video feeds and upload them after the session is done. My goal is to get live audio streaming done completely using Solaris and native tools like icecast and lame. It will also be low bandwidth and usually it's easier for people to do their work and listen to the broadcasts at the same time rather than spending hours looking at video. You can start looking at www.icecast.org and try getting yourself familiarized with the tools and might want to try to set up a live streaming server - the OSS drivers can be downloaded from our site. I think you should stick with x86 since the hardware is probably better supported. best regards Dev Mazumdar -- ----------------------------------------------------------- 4Front Technologies 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA. 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Thanks, Jesse From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Mon Apr 14 22:27:58 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:27:58 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] [Fwd: Meetings tomorrow CANCELED: Moved to Thursday] Message-ID: <48043CDE.4050201@sun.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Meetings tomorrow CANCELED: Moved to Thursday Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:31:18 -0700 From: Jesse Silver To: opensolaris-summit Hi All- I will be busy at the mySQL conference in Santa Clara tomorrow and will have to cancel the planning meetings. Instead, I will hold them Thursday at 8am PT and 3:30pm PT. Sorry about the late notice - I tried to work it out but it just couldn't happen. I'll send the reminder for Thursday's meeting on Wednesday. Thanks, Jesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Silver Sun Microsystems 310-766-2006 From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 16 19:22:11 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:22:11 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] REMINDER: Register for the OpenSolaris Summit Message-ID: <4806B453.1070800@sun.com> Hi All- The Summit is approaching quickly. If you are planning on attending and haven't yet registered, please visit our registration wiki . If you are registered and haven't yet booked your hotel room, please do so immediately. Click Here to visit the customized Hilton registration page. Hotel Name: Hilton Santa Cruz/Scotts Valley Hotel Address: 6001 La Madrona Drive, Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 Phone: 831-430-3220 Group Code: SUN Please plan on arriving in Santa Cruz Friday May 2nd. If you are attending CommunityOne on Monday, we will provide free transportation to Moscone Center in San Francisco on Sunday May 4th. 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Thanks all, Jesse From swalker at opensolaris.org Fri Apr 18 07:27:23 2008 From: swalker at opensolaris.org (Shawn Walker) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:27:23 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Establishing a Successful OS Platform Message-ID: Greetings, One of the things I think we need to discuss at the summit is what we can do from a technical and community perspective to establish OpenSolaris as a premier platform for development. Notably, every existing commercially (including in the past) successful operating system (Windows, OS X, AIX, etc.) has chosen to select certain technologies as the ones that they invest resources in and recommend to developers for that platform. OS X has Core Image, Core Animation, Core Video, Core Audio, OpenGL, etc. Windows has Direct3D, DirectDraw, DirectMusic, DirectPlay, DirectSound, etc. I believe that one of the major failings of the GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, and other free software platforms, is that they have failed to establish a standard set of platform technologies that developers can rely on and that are optimised for the platform. OpenSolaris, especially with the advent of Project Indiana, has an opportunity to focus on and invest primarily in certain technologies as "core platform technologies" -- specific, high-value areas. Before anyone mentions it, I also believe it is possible for the majority of these technologies to be desktop-agnostic, so this *is not about* a Desktop Environment vs. Desktop Environment war :-) With this in mind, I would like to see an evaluation process being to see how we are doing in the following areas and what can be done to improve upon them. I've included my own commentary in-line: * 3D - we have OpenGL support nVidia, some Intel chipsets, ATi in progress, Mesa, etc. thanks to the excellent work of Sun's X11 team. * Audio - we will have OSS soon, thanks to 4Front, but need a good 3D Audio library to complement it. I believe OpenAL would be an excellent cross-platform choice given it's support level on Windows and OS X * Video - gstreamer seems the obvious choice at the moment, but I don't have much familiarity with this area * Windowing APIs - we have Gtk now, and will have Qt integrated soon, thanks to Stefan Teleman It is my belief that we can attract new developers to our OS platform and spark new innovations by: * Ensuring these APIs are as well-documented as possible * Ensuring changes and contributions are done in cooperation with the upstream project * Ensuring these technologies are prominently featured in developer documentation as the "supported" solution to application development on the platform * Ensuring that issues with the chosen APIs get resource allocation priority over competing APIs * Ensuring that these APIs take full advantage of OpenSolaris-specific technologies (all APIs should have full DTrace probes, are RBAC-aware, ZFS, etc. where applicable) * Ensuring that each of these APIs are fully reviewed for architectural issues (via OpenSolaris ARC) * Ensuring that any new tools specific to our platform are written using these APIs I'd like to know what others think. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben From Timothy.Cramer at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 07:47:20 2008 From: Timothy.Cramer at Sun.COM (Tim Cramer) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:47:20 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Establishing a Successful OS Platform In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4808B478.8060809@sun.com> Shawn, Excellent excellent feedback. Thank you. This is exactly one of the discussions I really want to see at the Summit. We have a session (perhaps titled incorrectly) around prioritizing packages for OpenSolaris. I really would love to see a prioritized list we can focus Sun and the community on to make OpenSolaris the premier development and (once we get there) deployment platform. Tim Shawn Walker wrote: > Greetings, > > One of the things I think we need to discuss at the summit is what we > can do from a technical and community perspective to establish > OpenSolaris as a premier platform for development. > > Notably, every existing commercially (including in the past) > successful operating system (Windows, OS X, AIX, etc.) has chosen to > select certain technologies as the ones that they invest resources in > and recommend to developers for that platform. > > OS X has Core Image, Core Animation, Core Video, Core Audio, OpenGL, > etc. Windows has Direct3D, DirectDraw, DirectMusic, DirectPlay, > DirectSound, etc. > > I believe that one of the major failings of the GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, > and other free software platforms, is that they have failed to > establish a standard set of platform technologies that developers can > rely on and that are optimised for the platform. > > OpenSolaris, especially with the advent of Project Indiana, has an > opportunity to focus on and invest primarily in certain technologies > as "core platform technologies" -- specific, high-value areas. > > Before anyone mentions it, I also believe it is possible for the > majority of these technologies to be desktop-agnostic, so this *is not > about* a Desktop Environment vs. Desktop Environment war :-) > > > With this in mind, I would like to see an evaluation process being to > see how we are doing in the following areas and what can be done to > improve upon them. I've included my own commentary in-line: > * 3D - we have OpenGL support nVidia, some Intel chipsets, ATi in > progress, Mesa, etc. thanks to the excellent work of Sun's X11 team. > > * Audio - we will have OSS soon, thanks to 4Front, but need a good 3D > Audio library to complement it. I believe OpenAL would be an excellent > cross-platform choice given it's support level on Windows and OS X > > * Video - gstreamer seems the obvious choice at the moment, but I > don't have much familiarity with this area > > * Windowing APIs - we have Gtk now, and will have Qt integrated soon, > thanks to Stefan Teleman > > > It is my belief that we can attract new developers to our OS platform > and spark new innovations by: > * Ensuring these APIs are as well-documented as possible > > * Ensuring changes and contributions are done in cooperation with the > upstream project > > * Ensuring these technologies are prominently featured in developer > documentation as the "supported" solution to application development > on the platform > > * Ensuring that issues with the chosen APIs get resource allocation > priority over competing APIs > > * Ensuring that these APIs take full advantage of OpenSolaris-specific > technologies (all APIs should have full DTrace probes, are RBAC-aware, > ZFS, etc. where applicable) > > * Ensuring that each of these APIs are fully reviewed for > architectural issues (via OpenSolaris ARC) > > * Ensuring that any new tools specific to our platform are written > using these APIs > > I'd like to know what others think. > > Cheers, > From kmays2000 at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 09:56:30 2008 From: kmays2000 at gmail.com (ken mays) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:56:30 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Establishing a Successful OS Platform In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f7da8080804180956r65cfb4dcm6890be98fa7d37de@mail.gmail.com> Shawn, We have some of the greatest engineering minds from Sun and many others from around the world attending the Summit. Your request is a part of the agenda in which I proposed we look at multimedia-related APIs dealing with both 2D/3D graphics, video, and sound. Sound: OpenAL, Gstreamer 0.10.x/Fluendo, OSS 4.0, OSS/3D Graphics: OpenGL 2.1/Shader Model 4.1 & Mesa 7.0.3 You should check out: http://www.oss3d.com ~ Ken Mays On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: > Greetings, > > One of the things I think we need to discuss at the summit is what we > can do from a technical and community perspective to establish > OpenSolaris as a premier platform for development. > > > I believe that one of the major failings of the GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, > and other free software platforms, is that they have failed to > establish a standard set of platform technologies that developers can > rely on and that are optimised for the platform. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swalker at opensolaris.org Fri Apr 18 10:00:44 2008 From: swalker at opensolaris.org (Shawn Walker) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:00:44 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Establishing a Successful OS Platform In-Reply-To: <1f7da8080804180956r65cfb4dcm6890be98fa7d37de@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f7da8080804180956r65cfb4dcm6890be98fa7d37de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:56 AM, ken mays wrote: > Shawn, > > We have some of the greatest engineering minds from Sun and many others from > around the world attending the Summit. Your request is a part of the agenda > in which I proposed we look at multimedia-related APIs dealing with both > 2D/3D graphics, video, and sound. > > Sound: OpenAL, Gstreamer 0.10.x/Fluendo, OSS 4.0, OSS/3D > Graphics: OpenGL 2.1/Shader Model 4.1 & Mesa 7.0.3 > > You should check out: http://www.oss3d.com Ken, Thanks for mentioning OSS/3D. However, OSS/3D is really not a 3D Audio API for developers from what I understand, it's commercial only right now, and no source code is available. OpenAL serves a completely different audience than OSS/3D from what I can tell. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben From stevel at opensolaris.org Fri Apr 18 10:45:08 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:45:08 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] internet access for talks Message-ID: <4808DE24.4080301@opensolaris.org> I forget, what was the decision on Internet access? Will we have wi-fi or at least hardwired Internet access? (just trying to figure out if I'll have Internet for our demo) cheers, steve -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 10:53:16 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:53:16 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] internet access for talks In-Reply-To: <4808DE24.4080301@opensolaris.org> References: <4808DE24.4080301@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <4808E00C.60502@sun.com> Definitely have WiFi throughout and in the main room we have 30-40 jacks. What do you think I am, some kind of troglodyte ;) Stephen Lau wrote: > I forget, what was the decision on Internet access? Will we have wi-fi > or at least hardwired Internet access? (just trying to figure out if > I'll have Internet for our demo) > > cheers, > steve > > From stevel at opensolaris.org Fri Apr 18 11:09:13 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:09:13 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] internet access for talks In-Reply-To: <4808E00C.60502@sun.com> References: <4808DE24.4080301@opensolaris.org> <4808E00C.60502@sun.com> Message-ID: <4808E3C9.1020404@opensolaris.org> phew. i was worried i'd have to go to californee's refuge camp to gets me some internets. (one of my fave south park episodes so far) Jesse Silver wrote: > Definitely have WiFi throughout and in the main room we have 30-40 jacks. > > What do you think I am, some kind of troglodyte ;) > > Stephen Lau wrote: >> I forget, what was the decision on Internet access? Will we have >> wi-fi or at least hardwired Internet access? (just trying to figure >> out if I'll have Internet for our demo) >> >> cheers, >> steve >> >> -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:10:23 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:10:23 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] internet access for talks In-Reply-To: <4808E3C9.1020404@opensolaris.org> References: <4808DE24.4080301@opensolaris.org> <4808E00C.60502@sun.com> <4808E3C9.1020404@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <4808E40F.9030109@sun.com> No - this isn't gonna be like LugRadio Live... Stephen Lau wrote: > phew. i was worried i'd have to go to californee's refuge camp to > gets me some internets. > > (one of my fave south park episodes so far) > > Jesse Silver wrote: >> Definitely have WiFi throughout and in the main room we have 30-40 >> jacks. >> >> What do you think I am, some kind of troglodyte ;) >> >> Stephen Lau wrote: >>> I forget, what was the decision on Internet access? Will we have >>> wi-fi or at least hardwired Internet access? (just trying to figure >>> out if I'll have Internet for our demo) >>> >>> cheers, >>> steve >>> >>> > > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:16:52 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:16:52 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Talk/Session Titles Message-ID: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> If you are scheduled to lead a talk/session at the Summit, please feel free to edit the title on the Wiki to make it more compelling/better fit your plans. -J From Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:17:35 2008 From: Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM (Stuart Kreitman) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:17:35 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] internet access for talks In-Reply-To: <4808E00C.60502@sun.com> References: <4808DE24.4080301@opensolaris.org> <4808E00C.60502@sun.com> Message-ID: <4808E5BF.6000306@sun.com> small note: its good to have a few WAP's in the room for failover. If we're in the same room as last time, I remember there were convenient power ports at every desk/seat. Stuart Jesse Silver wrote: > Definitely have WiFi throughout and in the main room we have 30-40 jacks. > > What do you think I am, some kind of troglodyte ;) > > Stephen Lau wrote: > >> I forget, what was the decision on Internet access? Will we have wi-fi >> or at least hardwired Internet access? (just trying to figure out if >> I'll have Internet for our demo) >> >> cheers, >> steve >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:21:35 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:21:35 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] internet access for talks In-Reply-To: <4808E5BF.6000306@sun.com> References: <4808DE24.4080301@opensolaris.org> <4808E00C.60502@sun.com> <4808E5BF.6000306@sun.com> Message-ID: <4808E6AF.9060102@sun.com> Yes, we'll have some backup WAPs, and a UCSC engineer will be there in the mornings to make sure everything functions properly. And yes, there will be ample power ports. Stuart Kreitman wrote: > small note: its good to have a few WAP's in the room for failover. > If we're in the same room as last time, I remember there were > convenient power ports at every desk/seat. > > Stuart > > Jesse Silver wrote: >> Definitely have WiFi throughout and in the main room we have 30-40 >> jacks. >> >> What do you think I am, some kind of troglodyte ;) >> >> Stephen Lau wrote: >> >>> I forget, what was the decision on Internet access? Will we have >>> wi-fi or at least hardwired Internet access? (just trying to figure >>> out if I'll have Internet for our demo) >>> >>> cheers, >>> steve >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> > From John.Plocher at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:34:48 2008 From: John.Plocher at Sun.COM (John Plocher) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:34:48 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Talk/Session Titles In-Reply-To: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> Message-ID: <4808E9C8.5080101@Sun.Com> Can we get a speakerphone for conference call access to the OGB meeting Sat 15:45-17:00? -John From John.Plocher at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:37:33 2008 From: John.Plocher at Sun.COM (John Plocher) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:37:33 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> Message-ID: <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still needs closure...); but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not attending... The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were laborious and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? -John From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:38:03 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:38:03 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Talk/Session Titles In-Reply-To: <4808E9C8.5080101@Sun.Com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808E9C8.5080101@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <4808EA8B.200@sun.com> Can we Skype into it? I'll find out if we have access to a phone jack..if so, we can just take a polycom from Menlo John Plocher wrote: > Can we get a speakerphone for conference call access to the > OGB meeting Sat 15:45-17:00? > > -John > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From cypromis at opensolaris.org Fri Apr 18 11:42:09 2008 From: cypromis at opensolaris.org (Michal Bielicki) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:42:09 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Talk/Session Titles In-Reply-To: <4808EA8B.200@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808E9C8.5080101@Sun.Com> <4808EA8B.200@sun.com> Message-ID: I can stream it to a SIP URL and give people dial in and SIP url to listen live and record it at the same time. Just need good wifi and my Nokia 810 should be able to do the rest. On 18 Apr 2008, at 20:38, Jesse Silver wrote: > Can we Skype into it? > > I'll find out if we have access to a phone jack..if so, we can just > take > a polycom from Menlo > > John Plocher wrote: >> Can we get a speakerphone for conference call access to the >> OGB meeting Sat 15:45-17:00? >> >> -John >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit Michal Bielicki OpenSolaris Core Contributor Software Porters Community Leader From John.Plocher at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:44:00 2008 From: John.Plocher at Sun.COM (John Plocher) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:44:00 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Talk/Session Titles In-Reply-To: References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808E9C8.5080101@Sun.Com> <4808EA8B.200@sun.com> Message-ID: <4808EBF0.8060206@Sun.Com> Michal Bielicki wrote: > I can stream it to a SIP URL and give people dial in and SIP url to > listen live > and record it at the same time. > Just need good wifi and my Nokia 810 should be able to do the rest. This may be sufficient... Any way to patch it to the room audio so the live audience can hear the remote comments? -John From stevel at opensolaris.org Fri Apr 18 11:51:18 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:51:18 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <4808EDA6.5030400@opensolaris.org> ustream.tv will do both audio/video streaming as well as letting you record the entire audio/video stream. -steve John Plocher wrote: > Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still needs closure...); > but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not attending... > > The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were laborious > and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? > > -John > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 11:52:32 2008 From: Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM (Stuart Kreitman) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:52:32 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> I have a lovely hi def hard disk camcorder this year with an extended warrantee no less. Canon HG-10. 40Gb/9.5 hours of storage. Happy to use it. An external microphone would be nice to add. Stuart John Plocher wrote: > Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still needs closure...); > but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not attending... > > The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were laborious > and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? > > -John > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 12:02:49 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:02:49 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> Message-ID: <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> Hi All- Maybe we should schedule a streaming/recording strategy session sometime next week? Stuart Kreitman wrote: > I have a lovely hi def hard disk camcorder this year with an extended > warrantee no less. Canon HG-10. > 40Gb/9.5 hours of storage. > Happy to use it. An external microphone would be nice to add. > > Stuart > > John Plocher wrote: > >> Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still needs closure...); >> but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not attending... >> >> The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were laborious >> and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? >> >> -John >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 12:12:09 2008 From: Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM (Stuart Kreitman) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:12:09 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4808EDA6.5030400@opensolaris.org> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDA6.5030400@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <4808F289.9080306@sun.com> Is there a solution to the issue that the presenter's slides are not legible when videotaped? This really bugs me, and I haven't seen it done well yet. Can we configure the presenters' laptops to take video in, run a video in a window app, and then record the output? Or, a tool that composites computer output with live video, ie "Window in a video" rather than "video in a window" would be so cool. Stuart Stephen Lau wrote: > ustream.tv will do both audio/video streaming as well as letting you > record the entire audio/video stream. > > -steve > > John Plocher wrote: > >> Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still needs closure...); >> but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not attending... >> >> The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were laborious >> and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? >> >> -John >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> >> > > > From webmink at sun.com Fri Apr 18 12:22:20 2008 From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:22:20 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> Message-ID: Or we can note stuff here. I will be bringing an Edirol R-09 and an HD digital camcorder with me, and am happy to record one or two sessions although more would be too much for me. If there are others like me we could take a session or two each. S. On Apr 18, 2008, at 20:02, Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > Maybe we should schedule a streaming/recording strategy session > sometime next week? > > Stuart Kreitman wrote: >> >> I have a lovely hi def hard disk camcorder this year with an extended >> warrantee no less. Canon HG-10. >> 40Gb/9.5 hours of storage. >> Happy to use it. An external microphone would be nice to add. >> >> Stuart >> >> John Plocher wrote: >> >>> Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still >>> needs closure...); >>> but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not >>> attending... >>> >>> The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they >>> were laborious >>> and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? >>> >>> -John >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit _____ Simon Phipps, Chief Open Source Officer, Sun Microsystems Tel: +1 650 352 6327/USx69758 Web: www.webmink.net, AIM: webmink Current timezone: UTC-8 (California) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dev at opensound.com Fri Apr 18 12:24:39 2008 From: dev at opensound.com (Dev Mazumdar) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:24:39 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <4808F577.7000800@opensound.com> John Plocher wrote: > Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still needs closure...); > but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not attending... > > The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were laborious > and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? > > -John > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > Hi, There's a nice writeup on icecast in this weeks linux.com website http://www.linux.com/feature/131061 However there is also something called live ice: http://web.arm.ac.uk/~spm/software/liveice.html I started to work on getting it installed and working and then got busy with some other work. I will try to get it done but if someone wants to work on this - by all means please do. regards Dev Mazumdar -- ----------------------------------------------------------- 4Front Technologies 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA. Tel: (310) 202 8530 URL: www.opensound.com Fax: (310) 202 0496 Email: info at opensound.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From gsf at research.att.com Fri Apr 18 13:10:00 2008 From: gsf at research.att.com (Glenn Fowler) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:10:00 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> Message-ID: <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> for saturday night I noticed "bring a jacket" I hope this means "windbreaker" From Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:14:36 2008 From: Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM (Stuart Kreitman) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:14:36 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update In-Reply-To: <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> Message-ID: <4809012C.6000203@sun.com> Temp swing in Santa Cruz this week is 60 down to 40. You'll want a little insulation. Stuart Glenn Fowler wrote: > for saturday night I noticed "bring a jacket" > I hope this means "windbreaker" > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Mark.Carlson at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:19:37 2008 From: Mark.Carlson at Sun.COM (Mark A. Carlson) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:19:37 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update In-Reply-To: <4809012C.6000203@sun.com> References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> <4809012C.6000203@sun.com> Message-ID: <48090259.4090803@sun.com> And yes, the "insulation" can be informal... East coasters will read "jacket required" as formal... -- mark Stuart Kreitman wrote: > Temp swing in Santa Cruz this week is 60 down to 40. > > You'll want a little insulation. > > Stuart > > Glenn Fowler wrote: > >> for saturday night I noticed "bring a jacket" >> I hope this means "windbreaker" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Plocher at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:19:49 2008 From: John.Plocher at Sun.COM (John Plocher) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:19:49 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update In-Reply-To: <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> Message-ID: <48090265.4040603@Sun.Com> Glenn Fowler wrote: > I hope this means "windbreaker" I'm assuming this means "the activity will be held out of doors". May evenings in Santa Cruz can be chilly since much of the city is spread out along the beach. Last year, the hoodies were great, but not really sufficient once the sun had gone down. Depending on your tolerance for cold and how 'active' the activity is, a windbreaker might be enough. Being a cold-wimp myself, I'll bring a light jacket. -John From Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:13:14 2008 From: Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM (Deirdre Straughan) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:13:14 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4809001F.3050403@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> <4809001F.3050403@sun.com> Message-ID: <480900DA.2020304@sun.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jeff.Cheeney at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:10:07 2008 From: Jeff.Cheeney at Sun.COM (Jeff Cheeney) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:10:07 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> Message-ID: <4809001F.3050403@sun.com> One of the attendees will be Deirdre Straughan. She is the video blogger for the storage community . I know she will have her camera and would be willing to assist. --jc Simon Phipps wrote: > Or we can note stuff here. I will be bringing an Edirol R-09 and an HD > digital camcorder with me, and am happy to record one or two sessions > although more would be too much for me. If there are others like me we > could take a session or two each. > > S. > > On Apr 18, 2008, at 20:02, Jesse Silver wrote: > >> Hi All- >> >> Maybe we should schedule a streaming/recording strategy session >> sometime next week? >> >> Stuart Kreitman wrote: >>> I have a lovely hi def hard disk camcorder this year with an extended >>> warrantee no less. Canon HG-10. >>> 40Gb/9.5 hours of storage. >>> Happy to use it. An external microphone would be nice to add. >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> John Plocher wrote: >>> >>>> Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still needs closure...); >>>> but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not attending... >>>> >>>> The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were laborious >>>> and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? >>>> >>>> -John >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > > > > _____ > > *Simon Phipps,* Chief Open Source Officer, Sun Microsystems > > /Tel:/ +1 650 352 6327/USx69758 /Web:/ www.webmink.net > , /AIM:/ webmink > > /Current timezone: UTC-8 (California)/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:56:18 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:56:18 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update In-Reply-To: <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> Message-ID: <48090AF2.80505@sun.com> Yes, precisely. Glenn Fowler wrote: > for saturday night I noticed "bring a jacket" > I hope this means "windbreaker" > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:57:05 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:57:05 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update In-Reply-To: <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> Message-ID: <48090B21.9080905@sun.com> Do check the weather beforehand, though. It should be in the 70s-80s during the day, and cooler at night, but in Santa Cruz, you never know. Glenn Fowler wrote: > for saturday night I noticed "bring a jacket" > I hope this means "windbreaker" > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:58:24 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:58:24 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <480900DA.2020304@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> <4809001F.3050403@sun.com> <480900DA.2020304@sun.com> Message-ID: <48090B70.4060404@sun.com> This would be incredible Deirdre. Let's talk about this on Tuesday at the Summit planning meeting. Can you make it at either 8am PT or 3:30pm PT? We'll take 30 minutes or so to work out the recording/streaming plan. Deirdre Straughan wrote: > I've also got some decent audio equipment: boom mic designed for > consumer camcorders (works well when there's a lot of back-and-forth > Q&A with the audience), a mini audio mixer that can take an XLR audio > line from a sound board and mix it into the camera... Glad to help out > as needed. > > Jeff Cheeney wrote: >> One of the attendees will be Deirdre Straughan. She is the video >> blogger for the storage community . I >> know she will have her camera and would be willing to assist. >> >> --jc >> >> Simon Phipps wrote: >>> Or we can note stuff here. I will be bringing an Edirol R-09 and an >>> HD digital camcorder with me, and am happy to record one or two >>> sessions although more would be too much for me. If there are others >>> like me we could take a session or two each. >>> >>> S. >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2008, at 20:02, Jesse Silver wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All- >>>> >>>> Maybe we should schedule a streaming/recording strategy session >>>> sometime next week? >>>> >>>> Stuart Kreitman wrote: >>>>> I have a lovely hi def hard disk camcorder this year with an >>>>> extended warrantee no less. Canon HG-10. >>>>> 40Gb/9.5 hours of storage. >>>>> Happy to use it. An external microphone would be nice to add. >>>>> >>>>> Stuart >>>>> >>>>> John Plocher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still >>>>>> needs closure...); >>>>>> but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not >>>>>> attending... >>>>>> >>>>>> The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they >>>>>> were laborious >>>>>> and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? >>>>>> >>>>>> -John >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>>>>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>>>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>>> >>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> *Simon Phipps,* Chief Open Source Officer, Sun Microsystems >>> >>> /Tel:/ +1 650 352 6327/USx69758 /Web:/ www.webmink.net >>> , /AIM:/ webmink >>> >>> /Current timezone: UTC-8 (California)/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>> >> > > -- > > best regards, > Deirdr? 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(Case in point: at work all developers use Windows to develop applications that run on Solaris servers.) -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ From Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 13:59:44 2008 From: Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM (Deirdre Straughan) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:59:44 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <48090B70.4060404@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> <4809001F.3050403@sun.com> <480900DA.2020304@sun.com> <48090B70.4060404@sun.com> Message-ID: <48090BC0.9050808@sun.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 14:21:24 2008 From: Stuart.Kreitman at Sun.COM (Stuart Kreitman) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:21:24 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <48090BC0.9050808@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> <4809001F.3050403@sun.com> <480900DA.2020304@sun.com> <48090B70.4060404@sun.com> <48090BC0.9050808@sun.com> Message-ID: <480910D4.8010805@sun.com> I'm busy in the morning, so _might_ get on later in the 8am call, but am fully available for the 3:30pm call. Stuart Deirdre Straughan wrote: > I can make 8 am PT on the phone, I won't have Internet access at the > time - will in fact be at home waiting for Qwest to come install it! > > Jesse Silver wrote: >> This would be incredible Deirdre. >> >> Let's talk about this on Tuesday at the Summit planning meeting. Can >> you make it at either 8am PT or 3:30pm PT? We'll take 30 minutes or >> so to work out the recording/streaming plan. >> >> Deirdre Straughan wrote: >>> I've also got some decent audio equipment: boom mic designed for >>> consumer camcorders (works well when there's a lot of back-and-forth >>> Q&A with the audience), a mini audio mixer that can take an XLR >>> audio line from a sound board and mix it into the camera... Glad to >>> help out as needed. >>> >>> Jeff Cheeney wrote: >>>> One of the attendees will be Deirdre Straughan. She is the video >>>> blogger for the storage community . I >>>> know she will have her camera and would be willing to assist. >>>> >>>> --jc >>>> >>>> Simon Phipps wrote: >>>>> Or we can note stuff here. I will be bringing an Edirol R-09 and >>>>> an HD digital camcorder with me, and am happy to record one or two >>>>> sessions although more would be too much for me. If there are >>>>> others like me we could take a session or two each. >>>>> >>>>> S. >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 18, 2008, at 20:02, Jesse Silver wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All- >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe we should schedule a streaming/recording strategy session >>>>>> sometime next week? >>>>>> >>>>>> Stuart Kreitman wrote: >>>>>>> I have a lovely hi def hard disk camcorder this year with an >>>>>>> extended warrantee no less. Canon HG-10. >>>>>>> 40Gb/9.5 hours of storage. >>>>>>> Happy to use it. An external microphone would be nice to add. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stuart >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Plocher wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which >>>>>>>> still needs closure...); >>>>>>>> but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not >>>>>>>> attending... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but >>>>>>>> they were laborious >>>>>>>> and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -John >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>>>>>>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>>>>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>>>>>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>>>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>>>>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>>>>> >>>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _____ >>>>> >>>>> *Simon Phipps,* Chief Open Source Officer, Sun Microsystems >>>>> >>>>> /Tel:/ +1 650 352 6327/USx69758 /Web:/ www.webmink.net >>>>> , /AIM:/ webmink >>>>> >>>>> /Current timezone: UTC-8 (California)/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>>>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> best regards, >>> Deirdr? Straughan >>> >>> Sr. Web Producer and Community Specialist, SDASH >>> Sun Microsystems >>> >>> blog: Storage Stop - personal blog: >>> Un Posto al Sole >>> > > -- > > best regards, > Deirdr? Straughan > > Sr. Web Producer and Community Specialist, SDASH > Sun Microsystems > > blog: Storage Stop - personal blog: Un > Posto al Sole > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From swalker at opensolaris.org Fri Apr 18 14:36:01 2008 From: swalker at opensolaris.org (Shawn Walker) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:36:01 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Establishing a Successful OS Platform In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > One of the things I think we need to discuss at the summit is what we > > can do from a technical and community perspective to establish > > OpenSolaris as a premier platform for development. > > I nodded mentally in agreement, then read further and realized I > had got the wrong end of the stick. > > As I read it, you're looking to define a core platform that people can > develop for. Absolutely agree with that. > > Equally important is making OpenSolaris the premier platform to develop > on, even if developers are targeting usage on other platforms. > > (Case in point: at work all developers use Windows to develop > applications that run on Solaris servers.) I think that, indirectly, defining a core platform that people can develop for attracts developers. Those developers in turn write tools and other software that attracts developers that *develop on* other platforms, as you mentioned above. I think Mac OS X is a great example of that right now... However, yes, I agree. I think OpenSolaris should be *the* Premier Development platform whether you are developing *for* OpenSolaris or *on* OpenSolaris :-) Cheers, -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 15:03:08 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:03:08 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Reminder: CommunityOne Registration Message-ID: <48091A9C.6070200@sun.com> Hi All- If you're planning on going, please remember to register for CommunityOne. It's free, but space is limited, so make sure you're on the list. http://developers.sun.com/events/communityone/ Thanks all, Jesse From trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu Fri Apr 18 15:28:51 2008 From: trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu (Albert Lee) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:28:51 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update In-Reply-To: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> Message-ID: <1208557731.1053.53.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 23:08 -0700, Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > A new version of the schedule has been posted to the Wiki, > http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_Summit > > I've tried to include everyone's comments and requests. If something is > clearly missing or you feel I've missed your request, please ping me > again. I've had a lot of email to juggle and sometimes things simply > slip through the cracks. Don't hesitate to question me anytime. I'm interested in doing a section on "Games on OpenSolaris". Looking at the schedule, there might be space after the blogging stuff. -Albert From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 17:55:49 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:25:49 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update In-Reply-To: <1208557731.1053.53.camel@localhost> References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> <1208557731.1053.53.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <319ee2b10804181755r13ccdd67y4f9826ea88ceaf50@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Albert Lee wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 23:08 -0700, Jesse Silver wrote: > > Hi All- > > > > A new version of the schedule has been posted to the Wiki, > > http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_Summit > > > > I've tried to include everyone's comments and requests. If something is > > clearly missing or you feel I've missed your request, please ping me > > again. I've had a lot of email to juggle and sometimes things simply > > slip through the cracks. Don't hesitate to question me anytime. > > I'm interested in doing a section on "Games on OpenSolaris". Looking at > the schedule, there might be space after the blogging stuff. > Should be an interesting session. I am not able to respond to Albert's call for lending a hand for this session due to time constraints, but I am all for having the session. best regards Shiv From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 18:55:08 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:55:08 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] CommunityOne access privileges to JavaOne Message-ID: <480950FC.8010505@sun.com> Hi All- Got this note today from the planners of CommunityOne: We've expanded the JavaOne access a bit for CommunityOne attendees. As you know, C1 attendees will be able to return on Tuesday for access to JavaOne general sessions and pavilion. We've added a benefit - similar to last year - -that they will also be able to attend 2 tech sessions or BoF on Tuesday. They'll receive 2 session coupons, allowing entry to the session of their choice (if space is available once J1 attendees have entered). Have fun! -J From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 19:05:45 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:05:45 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Pitching for an open-slot In-Reply-To: <319ee2b10804081855j70520d21g3af92856b4331b35@mail.gmail.com> References: <319ee2b10804081855j70520d21g3af92856b4331b35@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48095379.2080003@sun.com> I put it on the schedule. You'll lead it? S h i v wrote: > If there is sufficient interest, I would like to propose a short talk > on Belenix - what is happening currently and the the future plans. > I expect this to be a 30min-45min session. > > -Shiv > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 19:47:25 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:17:25 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Pitching for an open-slot In-Reply-To: <48095379.2080003@sun.com> References: <319ee2b10804081855j70520d21g3af92856b4331b35@mail.gmail.com> <48095379.2080003@sun.com> Message-ID: <319ee2b10804181947h51210c94mcd6e2dbf34f99106@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Jesse Silver wrote: > I put it on the schedule. You'll lead it? > Thanks a lot, I noticed it. Yes. -Shiv From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Fri Apr 18 20:45:55 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:45:55 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Lightning Talk Signup Message-ID: <48096AF3.20206@sun.com> Hi All- We are setting the schedule for the lightning talks. If you'd like to reserve between 5-10 minutes for a lightning talk, please email back with your proposal and the amount of time you require. We'll alert you as soon as we assemble the list. Thanks, J From kmays2000 at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 07:55:49 2008 From: kmays2000 at gmail.com (ken mays) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:55:49 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4809001F.3050403@sun.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <4808EDF0.508@sun.com> <4808F059.7090803@sun.com> <4809001F.3050403@sun.com> Message-ID: <1f7da8080804190755o32ce40b9n90374b48faf2c610@mail.gmail.com> I have an empty 500 GB USB HD storage unit to store the digitized videos and audio streams if needed. If we want to set up a centralized server and a few webcams/camcorders we can copy/store the videos/audio streams and upload them to some specific destination(s) later. ~ Ken On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Jeff Cheeney wrote: > One of the attendees will be Deirdre Straughan. She is the video blogger > for the storage community . I know she > will have her camera and would be willing to assist. > > --jc > > Simon Phipps wrote: > > Or we can note stuff here. I will be bringing an Edirol R-09 and an HD > > digital camcorder with me, and am happy to record one or two sessions > > although more would be too much for me. If there are others like me we > > could take a session or two each. > > > > S. > > > > On Apr 18, 2008, at 20:02, Jesse Silver wrote: > > > >> Hi All- > >> > >> Maybe we should schedule a streaming/recording strategy session > >> sometime next week? > >> > >> Stuart Kreitman wrote: > >>> I have a lovely hi def hard disk camcorder this year with an extended > >>> warrantee no less. Canon HG-10. > >>> 40Gb/9.5 hours of storage. > >>> Happy to use it. An external microphone would be nice to add. > >>> > >>> Stuart > >>> > >>> John Plocher wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still > needs closure...); > >>>> but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not > attending... > >>>> > >>>> The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were > laborious > >>>> and ad-hoc. 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BTW, anybody heard of this??? http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-04/sunflash.20080414.1.xml regards Dev ----------------------------------------------------------- 4Front Technologies 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA. Tel: (310) 202 8530 URL: www.opensound.com Fax: (310) 202 0496 Email: info at opensound.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From Timothy.Cramer at Sun.COM Sat Apr 19 12:16:22 2008 From: Timothy.Cramer at Sun.COM (Tim Cramer) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:16:22 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Update In-Reply-To: <48090265.4040603@Sun.Com> References: <48083AC6.4030807@sun.com> <200804182010.m3IKA04P016353@penguin.research.att.com> <48090265.4040603@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <480A4506.10607@sun.com> Note: This doesn't mean we're formally dressing up (I got that question) it means we'll be outside :^) Tim John Plocher wrote: > Glenn Fowler wrote: > >> I hope this means "windbreaker" >> > > I'm assuming this means "the activity will be held out of doors". > > May evenings in Santa Cruz can be chilly since much of the city is > spread out along the beach. Last year, the hoodies were great, but > not really sufficient once the sun had gone down. Depending on > your tolerance for cold and how 'active' the activity is, a > windbreaker might be enough. Being a cold-wimp myself, I'll bring > a light jacket. > > -John > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike.kupfer at sun.com Sun Apr 20 21:11:31 2008 From: mike.kupfer at sun.com (Mike Kupfer) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:11:31 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] leader for "SCM move to outside committers" session Message-ID: <10338.1208751091@athyra> Hi, I was thinking I'm in the best position to lead the session on "SCM move to outside committers" (Sunday 14:05-15:00), since I've been working on the SCM migration tools and planning. Should I just add my name to the entry in the schedule? mike From James.Walker at Sun.COM Sun Apr 20 21:24:46 2008 From: James.Walker at Sun.COM (Jim Walker) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:24:46 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] leader for "SCM move to outside committers" session In-Reply-To: <10338.1208751091@athyra> References: <10338.1208751091@athyra> Message-ID: <480C170E.3060605@sun.com> Mike Kupfer wrote: > Hi, I was thinking I'm in the best position to lead the session on "SCM > move to outside committers" (Sunday 14:05-15:00), since I've been > working on the SCM migration tools and planning. > > Should I just add my name to the entry in the schedule? > Yep. Cheers, Jim From Colin.Charles at sun.com Sun Apr 20 20:41:54 2008 From: Colin.Charles at sun.com (Colin Charles) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:41:54 +0800 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Lightning Talk Signup In-Reply-To: <48096AF3.20206@sun.com> References: <48096AF3.20206@sun.com> Message-ID: <480C0D02.6040307@sun.com> On 4/19/08 Jesse Silver wrote: Hi! > We are setting the schedule for the lightning talks. If you'd like to > reserve between 5-10 minutes for a lightning talk, please email back > with your proposal and the amount of time you require. We'll alert > you > as soon as we assemble the list. "MySQL on Solaris - The Colin and JD Show" This is something where we can touch on SAMP, upcoming DTrace, maybe building, and so on... 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All are welcomed to attend: OpenSolaris Developer Summit Planning Meeting Tuesday, April 8th 8:00am PT & 3:30pm PT (866)230-6968 Int'l Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (865)544-7856 ACCESS CODE: 2192132 Agenda: - Schedule Update - Recording/Streaming - Food Update - Q/A From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Mon Apr 21 17:47:09 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:47:09 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] REMINDER: Planning Meeting, 4/22, 8am & 3:30pm PT In-Reply-To: <480D3492.1030907@sun.com> References: <480D3492.1030907@sun.com> Message-ID: <480D358D.9040702@sun.com> Please excuse the line that says the meeting is 4/8 :) Jesse Silver wrote: > Reminder there are two planning meetings tomorrow, Tuesday 4/22, to > accommodate those in disparate time zones. All are welcomed to attend: > > OpenSolaris Developer Summit Planning Meeting > Tuesday, April 8th > 8:00am PT & 3:30pm PT > > (866)230-6968 > Int'l Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (865)544-7856 > ACCESS CODE: 2192132 > > Agenda: > > - Schedule Update > - Recording/Streaming > - Food Update > - Q/A > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Mon Apr 21 21:53:52 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:53:52 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] CHANGE: International Access #: 213-787-0528 Message-ID: <480D6F60.1010709@sun.com> The new international access # is 213-787-0528 From jordan247 at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 22:11:14 2008 From: jordan247 at gmail.com (Jordan Schwartz) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:11:14 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <61e2e3c20804212211q2514b015m6226731d37107cab@mail.gmail.com> > Are there plans for something better this time? I'd suggest spending a few dollars and bringing in Ted from www.mediaArchives.com 800-952-5678. He did the video for Lug Radio Live a few weekends back and it was quite impressive. He had a similar setup for each stage..... Two cameras on tripods One feed for graphics from the laptop One video switching deck Two DVD burners So basically with a few volunteers, myself included, and Ted running back forth between the stages like a madman. He was able to get live video mixes including slides for each stage. He also brought two burner stacks with 7 drives each and a labler so within an hour of each presentation's conclusion he had 14 DVDs, labled and available for sale. The lugradio guys were also able to get him to license the recording under creative commons and they walked out on Sunday evening with 31 DVDs of their conference. (Including Ian's talk) Hope this helps, Jordan On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:37 AM, John Plocher wrote: > Dev and others brought up audio and video streaming (which still needs > closure...); > but nobody has brought up audio recordings for people not attending... > > The recordings we did last year seemed to be a success, but they were > laborious > and ad-hoc. Are there plans for something better this time? > > -John > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We do one for the IE-OSUG, http://opensolaris.org/os/project/ie-osug/podcast/ with the feed at http://mediacast.sun.com/users/timsf/media/ie-osug-podcast.rss - I'd be happy to help explain how to put one of these together - but the essence is, having all the talks in one easily accessible place, rather than scattered across several web pages, and getting a quick summary of the talk and a pointer to slides in the field of the rss feed would be most excellent! If you guys are recording just video, could we perhaps get the audio extracted and posted in an audio rss feed as well? cheers, and sorry I can't do more to help the summit this time around - hopefully I'll be at the next one in 6 months time ? tim [1] And only then, if I can get a wifi signal on the beach - or catch up on the sessions when I get back to civilisation! It's my sister's wedding in Spain, and we're flying over on May 3rd to get 2 weeks of family vacation before the big day. Gman's luckier, as the West coast is conveniently situated between New Zealand and Spain, so he gets to attend both :-) -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Solaris Engineering Ops http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Tue Apr 22 05:27:00 2008 From: Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:27:00 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Establishing a Successful OS Platform In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480dd994.g3spdEpFfdDPdelo%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> "Shawn Walker" wrote: > > (Case in point: at work all developers use Windows to develop > > applications that run on Solaris servers.) > > I think that, indirectly, defining a core platform that people can > develop for attracts developers. Those developers in turn write tools > and other software that attracts developers that *develop on* other > platforms, as you mentioned above. > > I think Mac OS X is a great example of that right now... > > However, yes, I agree. I think OpenSolaris should be *the* Premier > Development platform whether you are developing *for* OpenSolaris or > *on* OpenSolaris :-) Looking at the available tools, OpenSolaris should be the main development platform. You need to propagate this knowledge.... SunOS/Solaris is my premier development platform for more than 23 years now. J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Tue Apr 22 05:37:59 2008 From: Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:37:59 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Reminder: CommunityOne Registration In-Reply-To: <48091A9C.6070200@sun.com> References: <48091A9C.6070200@sun.com> Message-ID: <480ddc27.pokO65rw8czvo+Md%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > If you're planning on going, please remember to register for > CommunityOne. It's free, but space is limited, so make sure you're on > the list. > > http://developers.sun.com/events/communityone/ Looks like the phone number field has the usual US problems :-( Something like +49 should be recognized as phone number. J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 09:39:07 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:39:07 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT Message-ID: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> Attendees: John Plocher Ken Mays Nick Solter Joerg Schilling Deirdre Jim Walker Dave Stewart Jesse Silver Schedule: Joerg wants to see discussion on OpenSolaris Self Hosting. Plocher and Walker agree. Joerg will write email expanding on point and Jesse will bring to Teresa and Tim. Optimizing for Solaris - Kuldip/VJ/Walker/Alt may work together on this. Performance Tools- - Dave Stewart will ask some Intel folks if they are interested in sharing the session w/ Jim Walker. Defect Tracking - Walker will ping people. Recording: Order of action- 1. Jesse will ask Ted from MediaArchives.com if he can record/stream the Summit. Streaming is lower priority, but recording is essential. 2. If Ted can't or is too expensive, Jesse will investigate using the pre-existing infrastructure at UCSC to stream/record. 3. If this doesn't work, Jesse will investigate UCSC media services. They may be able to at least audio record each session cheaply. 4. If this doesn't work, we will record open source style, with everyone bringing their individual equipment to record. Food: Better breakfasts than last year. Also less waste. Saturday Evening Event: Bring jacket for warmth and wind protection. We will be outside by the beach for 2 hours, 6-8pm on Saturday. Then will come inside for dinner. Please check the weather before you come. From dev at opensound.com Tue Apr 22 10:24:01 2008 From: dev at opensound.com (Dev Mazumdar) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:24:01 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <1208857543.19751.15.camel@haiiro> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <1208857543.19751.15.camel@haiiro> Message-ID: <480E1F31.6020809@opensound.com> Hi, I have now been able to create the "Live Streaming Server" for Solaris x86 that uses Icecast, Ices and Open Sound. You can download the package from: http://www.opensound.com/test/livess-1.0-i386.pkg Setup instructions are really simple and can be done on any machine with audio. Server Setup: ------------- 1) Must have Solaris 11 with Open Sound System - ensure recording is working by running ossrecord test.wav and speak into the mic and playback by typing ossplay test.wav. If you hear your voice you're set. If nothing is heard run ossxmix and setup the mixer so that the mic is the input source. 2) pkgadd -d livess-1.0-i386.pkg as root 3) edit /etc/icecast.xml and /etc/ices.xml and look for xx.xx.xx.xx and replace that with your machine's IP. 4) run /etc/init.d/livess start Client setup (windows, unix, macos) ---------------------------- Requirement: XMMS or Winamp or Windows Media Player or iTunes UNIX: In XMMS: put the mouse on the XMMS window press ^l and it pop up a dialog box in which you type: http://you.ip.add.ress:8000/opensolaris.ogg WINDOWS: In Winamp: hit PL button and press Add and select Add URL and in the box type http://your.ip.add.ress:8000/opensolaris.ogg MACOS: No clue if itunes supports ogg. Wait for about 20 seconds and you should now hear anything being recording on the server. There is a lag of about 20 seconds - nothing I can do about it - it's just buffering and encoding that takes time. THis version uses Ogg so we should be in the clear w.r.t licenses and other issue surrounding mp3. If necessary we can also record whatever is being sent out to the net to a file for archival. Give it a shot and let me know if there are problems. best regards Dev Mazumdar ----------------------------------------------------------- 4Front Technologies 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA. Tel: (310) 202 8530 URL: www.opensound.com Fax: (310) 202 0496 Email: info at opensound.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 10:37:31 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:37:31 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <480E1F31.6020809@opensound.com> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <1208857543.19751.15.camel@haiiro> <480E1F31.6020809@opensound.com> Message-ID: <480E225B.9060101@sun.com> Dev - this is really awesome. In an attempt to make sure no attendees of the summit (including you) are burdened by taping, I am going to try and have someone outside of the community handle this. I'll see if he can stream using this method. Thanks a ton. Dev Mazumdar wrote: > Hi, > > > I have now been able to create the "Live Streaming Server" for Solaris > x86 that uses Icecast, Ices and Open Sound. > > You can download the package from: > http://www.opensound.com/test/livess-1.0-i386.pkg > > Setup instructions are really simple and can be done on any machine with > audio. > > Server Setup: > ------------- > 1) Must have Solaris 11 with Open Sound System - ensure recording is > working by running ossrecord test.wav and speak into the mic and > playback by typing ossplay test.wav. If you hear your voice you're set. > If nothing is heard run ossxmix and setup the mixer so that the mic is > the input source. > > 2) pkgadd -d livess-1.0-i386.pkg as root > > 3) edit /etc/icecast.xml and /etc/ices.xml and look for > xx.xx.xx.xx and replace that with your machine's IP. > > 4) run /etc/init.d/livess start > > > Client setup (windows, unix, macos) > ---------------------------- > Requirement: XMMS or Winamp or Windows Media Player or iTunes > > > UNIX: > In XMMS: put the mouse on the XMMS window press ^l and it pop up a > dialog box in which you type: > http://you.ip.add.ress:8000/opensolaris.ogg > > WINDOWS: > In Winamp: hit PL button and press Add and select Add URL and in the box > type http://your.ip.add.ress:8000/opensolaris.ogg > > MACOS: > No clue if itunes supports ogg. > > Wait for about 20 seconds and you should now hear anything being > recording on the server. There is a lag of about 20 seconds - nothing I > can do about it - it's just buffering and encoding that takes time. > > > THis version uses Ogg so we should be in the clear w.r.t licenses and > other issue surrounding mp3. > > > If necessary we can also record whatever is being sent out to the net to > a file for archival. > > > Give it a shot and let me know if there are problems. > > > > best regards > Dev Mazumdar > ----------------------------------------------------------- > 4Front Technologies > 4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA. > Tel: (310) 202 8530 URL: www.opensound.com > Fax: (310) 202 0496 Email: info at opensound.com > ----------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From swalker at opensolaris.org Tue Apr 22 11:41:11 2008 From: swalker at opensolaris.org (Shawn Walker) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:41:11 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through San Jose Friday Evening, May 2nd? Message-ID: I'm looking for someone to carpool with Friday Evening, May 2nd from San Jose Airport. Anyone going through there? Cheers, -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben From Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Tue Apr 22 12:05:03 2008 From: Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:05:03 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? Message-ID: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> In October 2007, I did give two people a ride from SFO, now I am in hope that someone could take me up from SFO on Friday 7:20 PM (add immigration time). Again taking a rental car would be a bad idea for me as I am taken to San Francisco for C1 by the Sun bus. J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From cypromis at opensolaris.org Tue Apr 22 12:23:56 2008 From: cypromis at opensolaris.org (Michal Bielicki) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:23:56 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> On 22 Apr 2008, at 21:05, Joerg Schilling wrote: > In October 2007, I did give two people a ride from SFO, > now I am in hope that someone could take me up from SFO > on Friday 7:20 PM (add immigration time). > > > Again taking a rental car would be a bad idea for me as I am > taken to San Francisco for C1 by the Sun bus. > > J?rg > > I am arriving at 4 pm and could wait for you and we share a cab if noone else is coming that way. cheers Michal Michal Bielicki OpenSolaris Core Contributor Software Porters Community Leader From johnsonnenschein at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 12:52:04 2008 From: johnsonnenschein at gmail.com (John Sonnenschein) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:52:04 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <241540330804221252x1228fb3du505695fc2582a7d8@mail.gmail.com> I'm coming in at 1:35 ( plus deplane & customs ), and waiting for 6 hours at SFO is less than ideal (anyone going to be there, or at somewhere in public transit distance ? ) but if push comes to shove I can hop in on that On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Michal Bielicki wrote: > > On 22 Apr 2008, at 21:05, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > In October 2007, I did give two people a ride from SFO, > > now I am in hope that someone could take me up from SFO > > on Friday 7:20 PM (add immigration time). > > > > > > Again taking a rental car would be a bad idea for me as I am > > taken to San Francisco for C1 by the Sun bus. > > > > J?rg > > > > > > > I am arriving at 4 pm and could wait for you and we share a cab if > noone else is coming that way. > > cheers > > Michal > > Michal Bielicki > OpenSolaris Core Contributor > Software Porters Community Leader > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -- PGP Public Key 0x437AF1A1 Available on hkp://pgp.mit.edu From Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 14:07:44 2008 From: Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM (Deirdre Straughan) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:07:44 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording sessions? In-Reply-To: <1208857543.19751.15.camel@haiiro> References: <4808E594.7080000@sun.com> <4808EA6D.6030703@Sun.Com> <1208857543.19751.15.camel@haiiro> Message-ID: <480E53A0.8040202@sun.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnsonnenschein at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 14:25:42 2008 From: johnsonnenschein at gmail.com (John Sonnenschein) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:25:42 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as well as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when i'm lost in california in the future ) We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this trip I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't bad. We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same neighbourhood. Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel arrangements -J On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad wrote: > If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap shuttle > that John mentioned. > > http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ > > http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html > > > > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > "John Sonnenschein" wrote: > > > > > > > I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that > > > cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san francisco -> > > > santa cruz? > > > > > > > This is interesting! > > > > > > > how's the train, should we even bother considering it? > > > > > > > I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and does not > go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? > > > > J?rg > > > -- PGP Public Key 0x437AF1A1 Available on hkp://pgp.mit.edu From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 14:34:10 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:34:10 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480E59D2.1080004@sun.com> The hotel is not even remotely in the same neighborhood...Not sure how you'd get from the bus station to the hotel...it's miles away. John Sonnenschein wrote: > Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as well > as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when i'm > lost in california in the future ) > > We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go > to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or > somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then > the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere > downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this trip > > I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it > was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't bad. > We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same > neighbourhood. > > Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel arrangements > -J > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad wrote: > >> If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap shuttle >> that John mentioned. >> >> http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ >> >> http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html >> >> >> >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >> >>> "John Sonnenschein" wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that >>>> cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san francisco -> >>>> santa cruz? >>>> >>>> >>> This is interesting! >>> >>> >>> >>>> how's the train, should we even bother considering it? >>>> >>>> >>> I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and does not >>> >> go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? >> >>> J?rg >>> >>> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnsonnenschein at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 14:34:20 2008 From: johnsonnenschein at gmail.com (John Sonnenschein) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:34:20 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <241540330804221434l2f6a35b6p5120319b884b379b@mail.gmail.com> There's also, at 10:00PM a greyhound bus for $15.25 that goes from SF to SC. You will arrive at 12:45am though. The earlier bus is at 12:30PM, which is an hour before I arrive in the country. This option may work for you joerg On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:25 PM, John Sonnenschein wrote: > Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as well > as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when i'm > lost in california in the future ) > > We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go > to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or > somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then > the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere > downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this trip > > I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it > was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't bad. > We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same > neighbourhood. > > Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel arrangements > -J > > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad wrote: > > If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap shuttle > > that John mentioned. > > > > http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ > > > > http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html > > > > > > > > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > > "John Sonnenschein" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that > > > > cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san francisco -> > > > > santa cruz? > > > > > > > > > > This is interesting! > > > > > > > > > > how's the train, should we even bother considering it? > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and does not > > go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? > > > > > > J?rg > > > > > > > > > > > -- > PGP Public Key 0x437AF1A1 > Available on hkp://pgp.mit.edu > -- PGP Public Key 0x437AF1A1 Available on hkp://pgp.mit.edu From Marty.Duey at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 14:37:02 2008 From: Marty.Duey at Sun.COM (Marty Duey) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:37:02 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through San Jose Friday Evening, May 2nd? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480E5A7E.2040001@sun.com> Hi Shawn, I arrive in SJC at about 2p. I can probably haul 2 or 3 people to Santa Cruz depending on how much luggage is involved. The only catch is that I'm leaving the summit Sunday morning for San Francisco so I you (and any others) would have to find alternate transport back (maybe the van to C1?) Regards, Marty On 4/22/2008 12:41 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > I'm looking for someone to carpool with Friday Evening, May 2nd from > San Jose Airport. > > Anyone going through there? > > Cheers, From Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 14:38:10 2008 From: Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM (Deirdre Straughan) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:38:10 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480E5AC2.5090500@sun.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnsonnenschein at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 14:45:01 2008 From: johnsonnenschein at gmail.com (John Sonnenschein) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:45:01 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <480E59D2.1080004@sun.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> <480E59D2.1080004@sun.com> Message-ID: <241540330804221445k46edce41k8aa10b5d3c5b3a52@mail.gmail.com> Ahh, you are correct. I apologize. But, the highway 17 bus stops in Scotts Valley as well, which is closer to the neighbourhood the hotel is in. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Jesse Silver wrote: > > The hotel is not even remotely in the same neighborhood...Not sure how > you'd get from the bus station to the hotel...it's miles away. > > > > John Sonnenschein wrote: > Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as well > as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when i'm > lost in california in the future ) > > We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go > to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or > somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then > the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere > downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this trip > > I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it > was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't bad. > We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same > neighbourhood. > > Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel arrangements > -J > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad wrote: > > > If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap shuttle > that John mentioned. > > http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ > > http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html > > > > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > "John Sonnenschein" wrote: > > > > > I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that > cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san francisco -> > santa cruz? > > > This is interesting! > > > > > how's the train, should we even bother considering it? > > > I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and does not > > go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? > > > J?rg > > > > > > -- PGP Public Key 0x437AF1A1 Available on hkp://pgp.mit.edu From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 14:47:06 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:47:06 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <241540330804221445k46edce41k8aa10b5d3c5b3a52@mail.gmail.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> <480E59D2.1080004@sun.com> <241540330804221445k46edce41k8aa10b5d3c5b3a52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480E5CDA.1000609@sun.com> Hehe...sorry I was so blunt. Didn't want anyone to get stranded in downtown Santa Cruz. John Sonnenschein wrote: > Ahh, you are correct. I apologize. > > But, the highway 17 bus stops in Scotts Valley as well, which is > closer to the neighbourhood the hotel is in. > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Jesse Silver wrote: > >> The hotel is not even remotely in the same neighborhood...Not sure how >> you'd get from the bus station to the hotel...it's miles away. >> >> >> >> John Sonnenschein wrote: >> Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as well >> as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when i'm >> lost in california in the future ) >> >> We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go >> to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or >> somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then >> the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere >> downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this trip >> >> I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it >> was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't bad. >> We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same >> neighbourhood. >> >> Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel arrangements >> -J >> >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad wrote: >> >> >> If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap shuttle >> that John mentioned. >> >> http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ >> >> http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html >> >> >> >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >> >> >> "John Sonnenschein" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that >> cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san francisco -> >> santa cruz? >> >> >> This is interesting! >> >> >> >> >> how's the train, should we even bother considering it? >> >> >> I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and does not >> >> go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? >> >> >> J?rg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From derek.cicero at sun.com Tue Apr 22 14:55:40 2008 From: derek.cicero at sun.com (Derek Cicero) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:55:40 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> John Sonnenschein wrote: > Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as well > as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when i'm > lost in california in the future ) > > We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go > to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or > somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then > the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere > downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this trip You can pick up Caltrain in the city at 4th and King or take BART to Millbrae, as you said, and catch the Caltrain there. The BART also runs to SFO. The Caltrain and BART are on the same level in Millbrae, you just need to buy a new ticket. It's $4 from SF to Millbrae on BART, $5.75 from Millbrae to San Jose on Caltrain. To take the Caltrain from SF to San Jose is $7.50. http://www.caltrain.com/index.html http://www.bart.gov/index.asp It's a 25 minute train ride from SF -> Millbrae and 1 hour from Millbrae to San Jose (they have express trains that are quicker). There is a bus that runs from San Jose to Santa Cruz. http://www.scmtd.com/routes/rt17.html Derek > > I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it > was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't bad. > We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same > neighbourhood. > > Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel arrangements > -J > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad wrote: >> If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap shuttle >> that John mentioned. >> >> http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ >> >> http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html >> >> >> >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >>> "John Sonnenschein" wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that >>>> cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san francisco -> >>>> santa cruz? >>>> >>> This is interesting! >>> >>> >>>> how's the train, should we even bother considering it? >>>> >>> I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and does not >> go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? >>> J?rg >>> > > > -- Derek Cicero Program Manager Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division From scion at cabin-john.net Tue Apr 22 15:21:56 2008 From: scion at cabin-john.net (Sam C. Nicholson !!) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:21:56 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> Message-ID: <480E6504.8000405@cabin-john.net> I'll be arriving SFO at 11:35pm and will have a car if anyone is left there by then. Anyone thinking they might need a ride, please email me and I'll share my SMS info for coordination. Cheers! -sam From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 16:38:31 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:38:31 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording Update Message-ID: <480E76F7.9040606@sun.com> Hi All- As per Jordan's suggestion, I've spoken to Ted from MediaArchives.com. He is mostly likely going to record the entire Summit, using 2 cameras in each room and special mics to pic up everyone's voice. It's pretty exciting stuff! More updates as they come... -J From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 16:54:22 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:54:22 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording Update In-Reply-To: <480E76F7.9040606@sun.com> References: <480E76F7.9040606@sun.com> Message-ID: <480E7AAE.2070106@sun.com> Apologies for my prolific typos ;) Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > As per Jordan's suggestion, I've spoken to Ted from MediaArchives.com. > He is mostly likely going to record the entire Summit, using 2 cameras > in each room and special mics to pic up everyone's voice. It's pretty > exciting stuff! > > More updates as they come... > > -J > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From swalker at opensolaris.org Tue Apr 22 17:19:11 2008 From: swalker at opensolaris.org (Shawn Walker) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:19:11 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through San Jose Friday Evening, May 2nd? In-Reply-To: <480E5A7E.2040001@sun.com> References: <480E5A7E.2040001@sun.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Marty Duey wrote: > Hi Shawn, > > I arrive in SJC at about 2p. I can probably haul 2 or 3 people to Santa > Cruz depending on how much luggage is involved. The only catch is that I'm > leaving the summit Sunday morning for San Francisco so I you (and any > others) would have to find alternate transport back (maybe the van to C1?) Hi Marty, Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't dream of asking you stay that long and others have already offered. Thanks much, -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 17:23:50 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:23:50 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Bus Message-ID: <480E8196.4030603@sun.com> Hi All- Just wanted to reiterate for all those coming from lands far away (or those who shun cars) that we will provide bus transport to C1 after the Summit ends Sunday evening. We'll also figure out a way to feed everyone. See you all soon, J From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 17:24:16 2008 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:24:16 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> Message-ID: <611FBD92-ADB1-49D6-A60C-16A563CBCAC5@sun.com> Gee, that sounds so simple ;) Sara 512-297-4600 On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Derek Cicero wrote: > John Sonnenschein wrote: >> Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as >> well >> as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when >> i'm >> lost in california in the future ) >> >> We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go >> to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or >> somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then >> the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere >> downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this >> trip > > You can pick up Caltrain in the city at 4th and King or take BART to > Millbrae, as you said, and catch the Caltrain there. The BART also > runs > to SFO. > > The Caltrain and BART are on the same level in Millbrae, you just need > to buy a new ticket. > > It's $4 from SF to Millbrae on BART, $5.75 from Millbrae to San Jose > on > Caltrain. > > To take the Caltrain from SF to San Jose is $7.50. > > http://www.caltrain.com/index.html > http://www.bart.gov/index.asp > > It's a 25 minute train ride from SF -> Millbrae and 1 hour from > Millbrae > to San Jose (they have express trains that are quicker). > > There is a bus that runs from San Jose to Santa Cruz. > > http://www.scmtd.com/routes/rt17.html > > > Derek > >> >> I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it >> was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't >> bad. >> We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same >> neighbourhood. >> >> Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel >> arrangements >> -J >> >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad >> wrote: >>> If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap >>> shuttle >>> that John mentioned. >>> >>> http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ >>> >>> http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Joerg Schilling wrote: >>> >>>> "John Sonnenschein" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that >>>>> cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san >>>>> francisco -> >>>>> santa cruz? >>>>> >>>> This is interesting! >>>> >>>> >>>>> how's the train, should we even bother considering it? >>>>> >>>> I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and >>>> does not >>> go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? >>>> J?rg >>>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Derek Cicero > Program Manager > Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit From Marty.Duey at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 17:25:37 2008 From: Marty.Duey at Sun.COM (Marty Duey) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:25:37 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through San Jose Friday Evening, May 2nd? In-Reply-To: References: <480E5A7E.2040001@sun.com> Message-ID: <480E8201.60508@sun.com> On 4/22/2008 6:19 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Marty Duey wrote: >> Hi Shawn, >> >> I arrive in SJC at about 2p. I can probably haul 2 or 3 people to Santa >> Cruz depending on how much luggage is involved. The only catch is that I'm >> leaving the summit Sunday morning for San Francisco so I you (and any >> others) would have to find alternate transport back (maybe the van to C1?) > > Hi Marty, > > Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't dream of asking you stay that > long and others have already offered. > > Thanks much, Glad to hear that you have worked out transport. Offer still stands for others looking for a ride. Marty -- From derek.cicero at sun.com Tue Apr 22 17:30:30 2008 From: derek.cicero at sun.com (Derek Cicero) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:30:30 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <611FBD92-ADB1-49D6-A60C-16A563CBCAC5@sun.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> <611FBD92-ADB1-49D6-A60C-16A563CBCAC5@sun.com> Message-ID: <480E8326.7050508@sun.com> Sara Dornsife wrote: > Gee, that sounds so simple ;) When traveling, it's often the case that simple = expensive and cheap = complex. ;) If money is no object, might I suggest: http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=113 I think they have one with a hot tub as well. ;) Derek > Sara > 512-297-4600 > > On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Derek Cicero wrote: > >> John Sonnenschein wrote: >>> Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as well >>> as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when i'm >>> lost in california in the future ) >>> >>> We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go >>> to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or >>> somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then >>> the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere >>> downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this trip >> >> You can pick up Caltrain in the city at 4th and King or take BART to >> Millbrae, as you said, and catch the Caltrain there. The BART also runs >> to SFO. >> >> The Caltrain and BART are on the same level in Millbrae, you just need >> to buy a new ticket. >> >> It's $4 from SF to Millbrae on BART, $5.75 from Millbrae to San Jose on >> Caltrain. >> >> To take the Caltrain from SF to San Jose is $7.50. >> >> http://www.caltrain.com/index.html >> http://www.bart.gov/index.asp >> >> It's a 25 minute train ride from SF -> Millbrae and 1 hour from Millbrae >> to San Jose (they have express trains that are quicker). >> >> There is a bus that runs from San Jose to Santa Cruz. >> >> http://www.scmtd.com/routes/rt17.html >> >> >> Derek >> >>> >>> I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it >>> was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't bad. >>> We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same >>> neighbourhood. >>> >>> Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel >>> arrangements >>> -J >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad >>> wrote: >>>> If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap >>>> shuttle >>>> that John mentioned. >>>> >>>> http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ >>>> >>>> http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Joerg Schilling wrote: >>>> >>>>> "John Sonnenschein" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that >>>>>> cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san francisco -> >>>>>> santa cruz? >>>>>> >>>>> This is interesting! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> how's the train, should we even bother considering it? >>>>>> >>>>> I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and >>>>> does not >>>> go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? >>>>> J?rg >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Derek Cicero >> Program Manager >> Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit -- Derek Cicero Program Manager Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division From johnsonnenschein at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 18:57:20 2008 From: johnsonnenschein at gmail.com (John) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:57:20 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <480E8326.7050508@sun.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> <611FBD92-ADB1-49D6-A60C-16A563CBCAC5@sun.com> <480E8326.7050508@sun.com> Message-ID: <480E9780.6090004@gmail.com> Derek Cicero wrote: > Sara Dornsife wrote: >> Gee, that sounds so simple ;) > > When traveling, it's often the case that simple = expensive and cheap = > complex. ;) > > If money is no object, might I suggest: > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=113 > > I think they have one with a hot tub as well. ;) > If anyone's renting one of these and wants some company ( but not another payer ), I'd be down with that ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <480E8326.7050508@sun.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> <611FBD92-ADB1-49D6-A60C-16A563CBCAC5@sun.com> <480E8326.7050508@sun.com> Message-ID: <480E8404.9090304@sun.com> Derek Cicero wrote: > Sara Dornsife wrote: > >> Gee, that sounds so simple ;) >> > > When traveling, it's often the case that simple = expensive and cheap = > complex. ;) > > If money is no object, might I suggest: > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=113 > > Ha! This is what we're taking to CommunityOne. Don't give my game away ;) > I think they have one with a hot tub as well. ;) > > Derek > > >> Sara >> 512-297-4600 >> >> On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Derek Cicero wrote: >> >> >>> John Sonnenschein wrote: >>> >>>> Here's what I've discovered. ( in case anyone else is curious, as well >>>> as so that I have somewhere easily accessible to get it again when i'm >>>> lost in california in the future ) >>>> >>>> We can take the BART milbrae light transit to the end, get off and go >>>> to caltrain station which is across the street or down the stairs or >>>> somewhere in the close vicinity, the caltrain goes to san jose, then >>>> the san jose -> santa cruz highway 17 shuttle will get us somewhere >>>> downtown santa cruz. Should cost on the order of $10 to take this trip >>>> >>> You can pick up Caltrain in the city at 4th and King or take BART to >>> Millbrae, as you said, and catch the Caltrain there. The BART also runs >>> to SFO. >>> >>> The Caltrain and BART are on the same level in Millbrae, you just need >>> to buy a new ticket. >>> >>> It's $4 from SF to Millbrae on BART, $5.75 from Millbrae to San Jose on >>> Caltrain. >>> >>> To take the Caltrain from SF to San Jose is $7.50. >>> >>> http://www.caltrain.com/index.html >>> http://www.bart.gov/index.asp >>> >>> It's a 25 minute train ride from SF -> Millbrae and 1 hour from Millbrae >>> to San Jose (they have express trains that are quicker). >>> >>> There is a bus that runs from San Jose to Santa Cruz. >>> >>> http://www.scmtd.com/routes/rt17.html >>> >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> >>>> I walked with my bags from the bus station to the hotel last year, it >>>> was about 6 or 7 blocks and a little bit of a hill, but it wasn't bad. >>>> We're in a different hotel this year, but i think it was in the same >>>> neighbourhood. >>>> >>>> Cheers, and here's hoping we all find less complicated travel >>>> arrangements >>>> -J >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alta Elstad >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you get from SFO to SJC, I guess you could then take the cheap >>>>> shuttle >>>>> that John mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/ >>>>> >>>>> http://www.sjc.org/travelers/public.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Joerg Schilling wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "John Sonnenschein" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember last year I took a bus from santa cruz to san jose that >>>>>>> cost me $2 or $3... anything that does similar for san francisco -> >>>>>>> santa cruz? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> This is interesting! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> how's the train, should we even bother considering it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I am not sure, but I have in mind that is is once every hour and >>>>>> does not >>>>>> >>>>> go an the evening. Could someone confirm that? >>>>> >>>>>> J?rg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Derek Cicero >>> Program Manager >>> Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From webmink at sun.com Tue Apr 22 17:59:08 2008 From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:59:08 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Rescue Service Message-ID: I'll be in the Bay Area from Thursday evening with no personal commitments, am very familiar with the area despite being a visitor, and I'll have a rental car with plenty of room. I am willing to drive anywhere throughout the weekend to help OpenSolaris Summit delegates who get stuck trying to make transport arrangements. * If you would like the security of having someone you can call, contact me by e-mail before the end of April and I will give you my mobile phone number. (I'd post it here for everyone but I'd rather not publish it on a mailing list that's publicly archived). * If you're willing to provide the same service, reply on-list and we can explore using a GrandCentral number or something as a "Summit Rescue Service" telephone number. S. From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 18:07:48 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:07:48 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Shuttles to the Rescue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480E8BE4.40005@sun.com> Okay, I've had enough of this. Time to throw some money at the problem. If you need transport from the airport, please put your info up on the Wiki. I will contact you individually to arrange shuttle service. We'll send enough through the day to pick everyone up. I am pretty busy the next day or two, but expect to hear from me by Friday. Happy? ;) Thanks all, hope this helps, J Simon Phipps wrote: > I'll be in the Bay Area from Thursday evening with no personal > commitments, am very familiar with the area despite being a visitor, > and I'll have a rental car with plenty of room. I am willing to drive > anywhere throughout the weekend to help OpenSolaris Summit delegates > who get stuck trying to make transport arrangements. > > * If you would like the security of having someone you can call, > contact me by e-mail before the end of April and I will give you my > mobile phone number. (I'd post it here for everyone but I'd rather not > publish it on a mailing list that's publicly archived). > * If you're willing to provide the same service, reply on-list and we > can explore using a GrandCentral number or something as a "Summit > Rescue Service" telephone number. > > S. > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From webmink at sun.com Tue Apr 22 18:33:13 2008 From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:33:13 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Shuttles to the Rescue In-Reply-To: <480E8BE4.40005@sun.com> References: <480E8BE4.40005@sun.com> Message-ID: <4FFD9875-A52E-4A59-BDDC-14F9D4B20EDC@sun.com> That's great and I'm sure everyone will take you up on it, but my offer is genuine and still open. When I have been to FOSS conferences like FISL, DebConf and GUADEC in remote and unfamiliar places I have really valued having a number I can call if I get stuck; conversely, I have never felt more lost and alone than trying to get to a FOSS event once (actually near Berlin) where I didn't really know anyone. S. On Apr 23, 2008, at 02:07, Jesse Silver wrote: > Okay, I've had enough of this. Time to throw some money at the > problem. > > If you need transport from the airport, please put your info up on the > Wiki. I will contact you individually to arrange shuttle service. > We'll > send enough through the day to pick everyone up. > > I am pretty busy the next day or two, but expect to hear from me by > Friday. > > Happy? ;) > > Thanks all, hope this helps, > J > > Simon Phipps wrote: >> I'll be in the Bay Area from Thursday evening with no personal >> commitments, am very familiar with the area despite being a visitor, >> and I'll have a rental car with plenty of room. I am willing to drive >> anywhere throughout the weekend to help OpenSolaris Summit delegates >> who get stuck trying to make transport arrangements. >> >> * If you would like the security of having someone you can call, >> contact me by e-mail before the end of April and I will give you my >> mobile phone number. (I'd post it here for everyone but I'd rather >> not >> publish it on a mailing list that's publicly archived). >> * If you're willing to provide the same service, reply on-list and >> we >> can explore using a GrandCentral number or something as a "Summit >> Rescue Service" telephone number. >> >> S. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 22 19:10:29 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:10:29 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Shuttles to the Rescue In-Reply-To: <4FFD9875-A52E-4A59-BDDC-14F9D4B20EDC@sun.com> References: <480E8BE4.40005@sun.com> <4FFD9875-A52E-4A59-BDDC-14F9D4B20EDC@sun.com> Message-ID: <480E9A95.3010500@sun.com> Thank you Simon. Very good offer, and great idea. If Simon is unreachable, please call my cell as well. You can find the # on the Wiki. Simon Phipps wrote: > That's great and I'm sure everyone will take you up on it, but my > offer is genuine and still open. > > When I have been to FOSS conferences like FISL, DebConf and GUADEC in > remote and unfamiliar places I have really valued having a number I > can call if I get stuck; conversely, I have never felt more lost and > alone than trying to get to a FOSS event once (actually near Berlin) > where I didn't really know anyone. > > S. > > > On Apr 23, 2008, at 02:07, Jesse Silver wrote: > >> Okay, I've had enough of this. Time to throw some money at the problem. >> >> If you need transport from the airport, please put your info up on the >> Wiki. I will contact you individually to arrange shuttle service. We'll >> send enough through the day to pick everyone up. >> >> I am pretty busy the next day or two, but expect to hear from me by >> Friday. >> >> Happy? ;) >> >> Thanks all, hope this helps, >> J >> >> Simon Phipps wrote: >>> I'll be in the Bay Area from Thursday evening with no personal >>> commitments, am very familiar with the area despite being a visitor, >>> and I'll have a rental car with plenty of room. I am willing to drive >>> anywhere throughout the weekend to help OpenSolaris Summit delegates >>> who get stuck trying to make transport arrangements. >>> >>> * If you would like the security of having someone you can call, >>> contact me by e-mail before the end of April and I will give you my >>> mobile phone number. (I'd post it here for everyone but I'd rather not >>> publish it on a mailing list that's publicly archived). >>> * If you're willing to provide the same service, reply on-list and we >>> can explore using a GrandCentral number or something as a "Summit >>> Rescue Service" telephone number. >>> >>> S. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-summit mailing list >>> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From jordan247 at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 19:33:50 2008 From: jordan247 at gmail.com (Jordan Schwartz) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:33:50 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Recording Update In-Reply-To: <480E76F7.9040606@sun.com> References: <480E76F7.9040606@sun.com> Message-ID: <61e2e3c20804221933m68af336reb403fed67e701ea@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Jesse Silver wrote: > I've spoken to Ted from MediaArchives.com. > Woo Hoo! Since It looks like I won't be able to make the summit due to V1280 to E2900 upgrade of a mission critical server, at least I'll be able to catch it on (IP)TV somewhere at some point. Thank you Jesse! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevel at opensolaris.org Tue Apr 22 19:38:53 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:38:53 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Rescue Service In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480EA13D.3080901@opensolaris.org> Simon Phipps wrote: > I'll be in the Bay Area from Thursday evening with no personal > commitments, am very familiar with the area despite being a visitor, > and I'll have a rental car with plenty of room. I am willing to drive > anywhere throughout the weekend to help OpenSolaris Summit delegates > who get stuck trying to make transport arrangements. > > * If you would like the security of having someone you can call, > contact me by e-mail before the end of April and I will give you my > mobile phone number. (I'd post it here for everyone but I'd rather not > publish it on a mailing list that's publicly archived). > * If you're willing to provide the same service, reply on-list and we > can explore using a GrandCentral number or something as a "Summit > Rescue Service" telephone number. > Anyone can feel free to call me as well, my GrandCentral # is on the wiki and will direct to wherever I'm at at the moment. If we want I can add additional #'s and have GrandCentral call a few folks as rescue service. cheers, steve -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From webmink at sun.com Tue Apr 22 20:01:53 2008 From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:01:53 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Rescue Service In-Reply-To: <480EA13D.3080901@opensolaris.org> References: <480EA13D.3080901@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <8E4118B0-BE0B-467F-9047-6C969027A6DE@sun.com> On Apr 23, 2008, at 03:38, Stephen Lau wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote: >> I'll be in the Bay Area from Thursday evening with no personal >> commitments, am very familiar with the area despite being a >> visitor, and I'll have a rental car with plenty of room. I am >> willing to drive anywhere throughout the weekend to help >> OpenSolaris Summit delegates who get stuck trying to make >> transport arrangements. >> >> * If you would like the security of having someone you can call, >> contact me by e-mail before the end of April and I will give you >> my mobile phone number. (I'd post it here for everyone but I'd >> rather not publish it on a mailing list that's publicly archived). >> * If you're willing to provide the same service, reply on-list and >> we can explore using a GrandCentral number or something as a >> "Summit Rescue Service" telephone number. >> > Anyone can feel free to call me as well, my GrandCentral # is on the > wiki and will direct to wherever I'm at at the moment. If we want I > can add additional #'s and have GrandCentral call a few folks as > rescue service. Cool, thanks Stephen. That's Jesse, Stephen and me. There's room for three more on the system, so volunteers are still welcome. The way it works is this: * You make a note of Stephen's phone number * When you need local help, call that number any time from May 1 to May 5 - Stephen will activate after work on May 1. * The system calls all of us at the same time so you could get any of us. * The first person to pick up gets to help you. Simple! S. From Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Wed Apr 23 01:59:14 2008 From: Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:59:14 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Anyone traveling through SFO Friday 7:20 PM? In-Reply-To: <480E8326.7050508@sun.com> References: <480e36df.HuSRTS++YuHOlUEq%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <9BACAF21-817C-480D-A92F-40C2AC1EB79F@opensolaris.org> <480E4356.6060008@Sun.COM> <241540330804221302r1a8c3621i9e1d567f62acca62@mail.gmail.com> <480e44d4.v3p0RMRXGpG2n2JC%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <480E5346.7050306@Sun.COM> <241540330804221425i7902d05amc6025f0514774dfb@mail.gmail.com> <480E5EDC.1080903@sun.com> <611FBD92-ADB1-49D6-A60C-16A563CBCAC5@sun.com> <480E8326.7050508@sun.com> Message-ID: <480efa62.cRBXcl5jZT8UlTY4%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Derek Cicero wrote: > If money is no object, might I suggest: > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=113 Looking at the pictures, it looks uglier than a rotten public bus ;-) J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 05:41:10 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:11:10 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Incorrect entry in the schedule (?) Message-ID: <319ee2b10804230541x21a6590s225694d1062ae914@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Room C, Day #2, 10-11 says "The Audio framework: 4Front's OSS/Latest in Device Driver Support, Hardware Detection, Fault/Power Management, and Thin Clients (Shiv/Baker)" I presume the name refers to me and would like to clarify that I haven't volunteered. regards Shiv From Chris.Baker at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 10:01:47 2008 From: Chris.Baker at Sun.COM (Chris Baker) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:01:47 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Incorrect entry in the schedule (?) In-Reply-To: <319ee2b10804230541x21a6590s225694d1062ae914@mail.gmail.com> References: <319ee2b10804230541x21a6590s225694d1062ae914@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480F6B7B.8010905@sun.com> It should say "Dev" (Mazumdar) from OpenSound - I just called him and he's going to update the agenda Rgds C S h i v wrote: > Hi, > > Room C, Day #2, 10-11 says > "The Audio framework: 4Front's OSS/Latest in Device Driver Support, > Hardware Detection, Fault/Power Management, and Thin Clients > (Shiv/Baker)" > > I presume the name refers to me and would like to clarify that I > haven't volunteered. > > regards > Shiv > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 11:13:41 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:13:41 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Incorrect entry in the schedule (?) In-Reply-To: <480F6B7B.8010905@sun.com> References: <319ee2b10804230541x21a6590s225694d1062ae914@mail.gmail.com> <480F6B7B.8010905@sun.com> Message-ID: <480F7C55.2080708@sun.com> Sounds good. Sorry Shiv. Chris Baker wrote: > It should say "Dev" (Mazumdar) from OpenSound - I just called him and > he's going to update the agenda > > Rgds > > C > > S h i v wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Room C, Day #2, 10-11 says >> "The Audio framework: 4Front's OSS/Latest in Device Driver Support, >> Hardware Detection, Fault/Power Management, and Thin Clients >> (Shiv/Baker)" >> >> I presume the name refers to me and would like to clarify that I >> haven't volunteered. >> >> regards >> Shiv >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gonna be a hoppin' good time. -J From benr at cuddletech.com Wed Apr 23 14:28:51 2008 From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:28:51 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Party Bus Poll In-Reply-To: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> References: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FAA13.6070307@cuddletech.com> Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > I'd like to take a quick poll as to how many of you plan on taking our > Party Bus to CommunityOne? > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=102&catname=Coaches > > We'll stop at the Scotts Valley Hilton on the way to San Francisco so > everyone can pick up their bags. > > Please just ping back with a yes if this sounds like something you might > do. Gonna be a hoppin' good time. > Thats sweet. I'm in the undecided column currently, as I'm driving to Santa Cruz, I'd have to arrange a ride back later to pick up my car.... but I think it'd be worth the hassle. Very nice Jesse!! benr. From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 15:09:35 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:09:35 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Attendance is Nearly Full Message-ID: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> Hi All- Summit registration has reached 103 people. Due to a limited number of seats in our largest room, please do not promote or urge new attendees to attend. We can fit a few more, and I'm sure we'll get some stragglers who are planning to attend but have yet to register, but I'd like to keep registration under 110. Again, if you are planning on attending and have yet to register please do so. But in the interest of comfort, we should pretty much stop promoting the event. Thanks all, Jesse From Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Wed Apr 23 15:22:39 2008 From: Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:22:39 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Party Bus Poll In-Reply-To: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> References: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> Message-ID: <480fb6af.OMQy44SqSB87jAgZ%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > I'd like to take a quick poll as to how many of you plan on taking our > Party Bus to CommunityOne? > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=102&catname=Coaches > > We'll stop at the Scotts Valley Hilton on the way to San Francisco so > everyone can pick up their bags. Looks nice and I am of course on board ;-) J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From stevel at opensolaris.org Wed Apr 23 15:26:50 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:26:50 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Attendance is Nearly Full In-Reply-To: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> References: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FB7AA.2000501@opensolaris.org> Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > Summit registration has reached 103 people. Due to a limited number of > seats in our largest room, please do not promote or urge new attendees > to attend. We can fit a few more, and I'm sure we'll get some stragglers > who are planning to attend but have yet to register, but I'd like to > keep registration under 110. > > Again, if you are planning on attending and have yet to register please > do so. But in the interest of comfort, we should pretty much stop > promoting the event. > > Thanks all, > Jesse > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > I've closed the event on Facebook... glad to see we got the #'s up to 100! -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From dclarke at blastwave.org Wed Apr 23 15:33:37 2008 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Attendance is Nearly Full In-Reply-To: <480FB7AA.2000501@opensolaris.org> References: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> <480FB7AA.2000501@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <4587.72.39.133.97.1208990017.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> >> > I've closed the event on Facebook... glad to see we got the #'s up to 100! > I'll take down the banners on Blastwave.org - Dennis Clarke From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 15:42:23 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:42:23 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Attendance is Nearly Full In-Reply-To: <480FB7AA.2000501@opensolaris.org> References: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> <480FB7AA.2000501@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <480FBB4F.4020902@sun.com> Thanks Steve! You have been most awesome as usual. Stephen Lau wrote: > Jesse Silver wrote: >> Hi All- >> >> Summit registration has reached 103 people. Due to a limited number >> of seats in our largest room, please do not promote or urge new >> attendees to attend. We can fit a few more, and I'm sure we'll get >> some stragglers who are planning to attend but have yet to register, >> but I'd like to keep registration under 110. >> >> Again, if you are planning on attending and have yet to register >> please do so. But in the interest of comfort, we should pretty much >> stop promoting the event. >> >> Thanks all, >> Jesse >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> > I've closed the event on Facebook... glad to see we got the #'s up to > 100! > From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 15:43:06 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:43:06 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Attendance is Nearly Full In-Reply-To: <4587.72.39.133.97.1208990017.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> <480FB7AA.2000501@opensolaris.org> <4587.72.39.133.97.1208990017.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <480FBB7A.5040306@sun.com> Thanks Dennis! As with Steve, you are most appreciated. Dennis Clarke wrote: >> I've closed the event on Facebook... glad to see we got the #'s up to 100! >> >> > > I'll take down the banners on Blastwave.org > > - > Dennis Clarke > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From derek.cicero at sun.com Wed Apr 23 15:55:54 2008 From: derek.cicero at sun.com (Derek Cicero) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:55:54 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Attendance is Nearly Full In-Reply-To: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> References: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FBE7A.4040908@sun.com> Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > Summit registration has reached 103 people. Due to a limited number of > seats in our largest room, please do not promote or urge new attendees > to attend. We can fit a few more, and I'm sure we'll get some stragglers > who are planning to attend but have yet to register, but I'd like to > keep registration under 110. > > Again, if you are planning on attending and have yet to register please > do so. But in the interest of comfort, we should pretty much stop > promoting the event. I removed the call-out box from os.org. Are you going to lock the page at 110? Derek > > Thanks all, > Jesse > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit -- Derek Cicero Program Manager Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division From cypromis at opensolaris.org Wed Apr 23 15:56:47 2008 From: cypromis at opensolaris.org (Michal Bielicki) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:56:47 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Party Bus Poll In-Reply-To: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> References: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> Message-ID: Very nice :) On 23 Apr 2008, at 23:00, Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > I'd like to take a quick poll as to how many of you plan on taking our > Party Bus to CommunityOne? > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=102&catname=Coaches > > We'll stop at the Scotts Valley Hilton on the way to San Francisco so > everyone can pick up their bags. > > Please just ping back with a yes if this sounds like something you > might > do. Gonna be a hoppin' good time. > > -J > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit Michal Bielicki OpenSolaris Core Contributor Software Porters Community Leader From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 15:59:02 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:59:02 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Attendance is Nearly Full In-Reply-To: <480FBE7A.4040908@sun.com> References: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> <480FBE7A.4040908@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FBF36.8070504@sun.com> Haven't planned on it. I think I'll wait until attendance get closer to 110 and then ask that anyone who registers email me first. Derek Cicero wrote: > Jesse Silver wrote: >> Hi All- >> >> Summit registration has reached 103 people. Due to a limited number >> of seats in our largest room, please do not promote or urge new >> attendees to attend. We can fit a few more, and I'm sure we'll get >> some stragglers who are planning to attend but have yet to register, >> but I'd like to keep registration under 110. >> >> Again, if you are planning on attending and have yet to register >> please do so. But in the interest of comfort, we should pretty much >> stop promoting the event. > > I removed the call-out box from os.org. > > Are you going to lock the page at 110? > > Derek > >> >> Thanks all, >> Jesse >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > > From kmays2000 at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 16:03:07 2008 From: kmays2000 at gmail.com (ken mays) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:03:07 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Summit Attendance is Nearly Full In-Reply-To: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> References: <480FB39F.6060507@sun.com> Message-ID: <1f7da8080804231603l44b4ca54uac3ff7bb65ce8184@mail.gmail.com> This is actually pretty awesome to have broken last year's Summit 2007 attendance record - and have some awesome companies and attendees attending the Summit with a GREAT agenda and topics. ~ Ken Mays On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > Summit registration has reached 103 people. Due to a limited number of > seats in our largest room, please do not promote or urge new attendees > to attend. We can fit a few more, and I'm sure we'll get some stragglers > who are planning to attend but have yet to register, but I'd like to > keep registration under 110. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 18:50:46 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:50:46 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT In-Reply-To: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> References: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FE776.70309@sun.com> To follow up on this: Jim- any luck w/ finding leaders for defect tracking? Joerg, John - any more detailed description of what we're looking for on a self hosting session? Jesse Silver wrote: > Attendees: > John Plocher > Ken Mays > Nick Solter > Joerg Schilling > Deirdre > Jim Walker > Dave Stewart > Jesse Silver > > Schedule: > Joerg wants to see discussion on OpenSolaris Self Hosting. Plocher and > Walker agree. Joerg will write email expanding on point and Jesse will > bring to Teresa and Tim. > > Optimizing for Solaris - Kuldip/VJ/Walker/Alt may work together on this. > > Performance Tools- - Dave Stewart will ask some Intel folks if they are > interested in sharing the session w/ Jim Walker. > > Defect Tracking - Walker will ping people. > > Recording: > Order of action- > 1. Jesse will ask Ted from MediaArchives.com if he can record/stream the > Summit. Streaming is lower priority, but recording is essential. > > 2. If Ted can't or is too expensive, Jesse will investigate using the > pre-existing infrastructure at UCSC to stream/record. > > 3. If this doesn't work, Jesse will investigate UCSC media services. > They may be able to at least audio record each session cheaply. > > 4. If this doesn't work, we will record open source style, with everyone > bringing their individual equipment to record. > > Food: > Better breakfasts than last year. Also less waste. > > Saturday Evening Event: > Bring jacket for warmth and wind protection. We will be outside by the > beach for 2 hours, 6-8pm on Saturday. Then will come inside for dinner. > Please check the weather before you come. > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > From Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 19:14:49 2008 From: Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM (Glynn Foster) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:14:49 +1200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT In-Reply-To: <480FE776.70309@sun.com> References: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> <480FE776.70309@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FED19.3020409@sun.com> Jesse Silver wrote: > To follow up on this: > > Jim- any luck w/ finding leaders for defect tracking? Valerie's attending, so she has as good a knowledge as anyone else in terms of bug tracking. It would be good to have Stephen there, obviously. Glynn From James.Walker at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 19:24:50 2008 From: James.Walker at Sun.COM (Jim Walker) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:24:50 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT In-Reply-To: <480FED19.3020409@sun.com> References: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> <480FE776.70309@sun.com> <480FED19.3020409@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FEF72.5080106@sun.com> Glynn Foster wrote: > > Jesse Silver wrote: >> To follow up on this: >> >> Jim- any luck w/ finding leaders for defect tracking? > > Valerie's attending, so she has as good a knowledge as anyone else in terms of > bug tracking. It would be good to have Stephen there, obviously. > I talked with Bonnie and the subject of the talk will just briefly cover why Bugzilla was selected, then a walk through of Bugzilla as it is implemented on defect.opensolaris.org. A general discussion on defect tracking and what is used internally and externally and when things will change isn't on the docket right now. Shawn Walker is considering doing the presentation, but hasn't given a yay or nay yet. He was a key part of the decision process, like so many other areas of opensolaris. Cheers, Jim From swalker at opensolaris.org Wed Apr 23 19:32:45 2008 From: swalker at opensolaris.org (Shawn Walker) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:32:45 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT In-Reply-To: <480FEF72.5080106@sun.com> References: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> <480FE776.70309@sun.com> <480FED19.3020409@sun.com> <480FEF72.5080106@sun.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Jim Walker wrote: > Glynn Foster wrote: > > > > Jesse Silver wrote: > >> To follow up on this: > >> > >> Jim- any luck w/ finding leaders for defect tracking? > > > > Valerie's attending, so she has as good a knowledge as anyone else in terms of > > bug tracking. It would be good to have Stephen there, obviously. > > > > I talked with Bonnie and the subject of the talk will just briefly > cover why Bugzilla was selected, then a walk through of Bugzilla > as it is implemented on defect.opensolaris.org. > > A general discussion on defect tracking and what is used internally > and externally and when things will change isn't on the docket > right now. > > Shawn Walker is considering doing the presentation, but hasn't given a > yay or nay yet. He was a key part of the decision process, like > so many other areas of opensolaris. As for the defect tracking talk, yes, I'll give it my best. Prepare for: "Defect Tracking or: When Things Bite Back" :-) As for decisions processes, I wouldn't call myself a key part. People ask me about things and I try to help out where I can. If someone finds my contributions useful, that's enough for me. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben From Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 19:35:12 2008 From: Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM (Teresa Giacomini) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:35:12 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT In-Reply-To: <480FE776.70309@sun.com> References: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> <480FE776.70309@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FF1E0.2020003@sun.com> Hi Jesse, I have a leader for Defect Tracking. Sent it to you a couple of says ago. Valerie Bubb Fenwick. Also, we have some video cameras and webcams that could be used if necessary. T Jesse Silver wrote: > To follow up on this: > > Jim- any luck w/ finding leaders for defect tracking? > > Joerg, John - any more detailed description of what we're looking for on > a self hosting session? > > Jesse Silver wrote: >> Attendees: >> John Plocher >> Ken Mays >> Nick Solter >> Joerg Schilling >> Deirdre >> Jim Walker >> Dave Stewart >> Jesse Silver >> >> Schedule: >> Joerg wants to see discussion on OpenSolaris Self Hosting. Plocher and >> Walker agree. Joerg will write email expanding on point and Jesse will >> bring to Teresa and Tim. >> >> Optimizing for Solaris - Kuldip/VJ/Walker/Alt may work together on this. >> >> Performance Tools- - Dave Stewart will ask some Intel folks if they >> are interested in sharing the session w/ Jim Walker. >> >> Defect Tracking - Walker will ping people. >> >> Recording: >> Order of action- >> 1. Jesse will ask Ted from MediaArchives.com if he can record/stream >> the Summit. Streaming is lower priority, but recording is essential. >> >> 2. If Ted can't or is too expensive, Jesse will investigate using the >> pre-existing infrastructure at UCSC to stream/record. >> >> 3. If this doesn't work, Jesse will investigate UCSC media services. >> They may be able to at least audio record each session cheaply. >> >> 4. If this doesn't work, we will record open source style, with >> everyone bringing their individual equipment to record. >> >> Food: >> Better breakfasts than last year. Also less waste. >> >> Saturday Evening Event: >> Bring jacket for warmth and wind protection. We will be outside by the >> beach for 2 hours, 6-8pm on Saturday. Then will come inside for >> dinner. Please check the weather before you come. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> From James.Walker at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 19:42:35 2008 From: James.Walker at Sun.COM (Jim Walker) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:42:35 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT In-Reply-To: References: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> <480FE776.70309@sun.com> <480FED19.3020409@sun.com> <480FEF72.5080106@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FF39B.7040205@sun.com> Thanks Shawn, Cheers, Jim Shawn Walker wrote: > > As for the defect tracking talk, yes, I'll give it my best. > > Prepare for: "Defect Tracking or: When Things Bite Back" :-) > > As for decisions processes, I wouldn't call myself a key part. People > ask me about things and I try to help out where I can. > > If someone finds my contributions useful, that's enough for me. > > Cheers, From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 19:43:42 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:43:42 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT In-Reply-To: <480FF1E0.2020003@sun.com> References: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> <480FE776.70309@sun.com> <480FF1E0.2020003@sun.com> Message-ID: <480FF3DE.3080209@sun.com> Great. Looks like we've got a pretty nice schedule! Teresa Giacomini wrote: > Hi Jesse, > > I have a leader for Defect Tracking. Sent it to you a couple of says > ago. Valerie Bubb Fenwick. > > Also, we have some video cameras and webcams that could be used if > necessary. > > T > > Jesse Silver wrote: > >> To follow up on this: >> >> Jim- any luck w/ finding leaders for defect tracking? >> >> Joerg, John - any more detailed description of what we're looking for on >> a self hosting session? >> >> Jesse Silver wrote: >> >>> Attendees: >>> John Plocher >>> Ken Mays >>> Nick Solter >>> Joerg Schilling >>> Deirdre >>> Jim Walker >>> Dave Stewart >>> Jesse Silver >>> >>> Schedule: >>> Joerg wants to see discussion on OpenSolaris Self Hosting. Plocher and >>> Walker agree. Joerg will write email expanding on point and Jesse will >>> bring to Teresa and Tim. >>> >>> Optimizing for Solaris - Kuldip/VJ/Walker/Alt may work together on this. >>> >>> Performance Tools- - Dave Stewart will ask some Intel folks if they >>> are interested in sharing the session w/ Jim Walker. >>> >>> Defect Tracking - Walker will ping people. >>> >>> Recording: >>> Order of action- >>> 1. Jesse will ask Ted from MediaArchives.com if he can record/stream >>> the Summit. Streaming is lower priority, but recording is essential. >>> >>> 2. If Ted can't or is too expensive, Jesse will investigate using the >>> pre-existing infrastructure at UCSC to stream/record. >>> >>> 3. If this doesn't work, Jesse will investigate UCSC media services. >>> They may be able to at least audio record each session cheaply. >>> >>> 4. 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Initial growth of the OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running sessions at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, but over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people in 67 UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds of UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level that leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and contribute. Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From Terri.Molini at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 21:34:53 2008 From: Terri.Molini at Sun.COM (Terri Molini) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:34:53 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] [advocacy-discuss] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <48100DED.9050809@sun.com> I like it. How can I help? -terri Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... > > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > > I'm looking for three things: > > * people to stop by and engage in the discussion, > * some suggestions about who should be on the panel itself, and > * some potential topics to kick around. > > Cool with that? > > Here's what I'm thinking as the context: > > OpenSolaris is 3 years old but grew from plans crafted a year before > that. So, the project is actually 4 years old, but the concept of > "advocacy" is still new and not well understood. Initial growth of the > OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few > motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running sessions > at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, but > over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people in 67 > UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds of > UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of > our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 > Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 > people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the > next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more > kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? > Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. > > Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated > individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can > credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This > is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level that > leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has > something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out > and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and contribute. > > Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? > > Jim > -- Terri Molini Sun Microsystems, Inc. Global Communications, Open Source 408/404-4976 office 408/406-9021 mobile GAIM: tmolini It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them. - Mark Twain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Joe.G at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 21:47:17 2008 From: Joe.G at Sun.COM (Joseph George) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:17:17 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: I like it too... ~Joe On 24-Apr-08, at 9:58 AM, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... > > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > > I'm looking for three things: > > * people to stop by and engage in the discussion, > * some suggestions about who should be on the panel itself, and > * some potential topics to kick around. > > Cool with that? > > Here's what I'm thinking as the context: > > OpenSolaris is 3 years old but grew from plans crafted a year before > that. So, the project is actually 4 years old, but the concept of > "advocacy" is still new and not well understood. Initial growth of the > OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few > motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running > sessions > at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, > but > over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people > in 67 > UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds > of > UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of > our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 > Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 > people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the > next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more > kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? > Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. > > Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated > individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can > credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This > is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level > that > leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has > something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out > and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and > contribute. > > Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? > > Jim > -- > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit From Timothy.Cramer at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 21:51:35 2008 From: Timothy.Cramer at Sun.COM (Tim Cramer) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:51:35 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] [advocacy-discuss] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <481011D7.40508@sun.com> I can't wait to listen to this panel session. Tim Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... > > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > > I'm looking for three things: > > * people to stop by and engage in the discussion, > * some suggestions about who should be on the panel itself, and > * some potential topics to kick around. > > Cool with that? > > Here's what I'm thinking as the context: > > OpenSolaris is 3 years old but grew from plans crafted a year before > that. So, the project is actually 4 years old, but the concept of > "advocacy" is still new and not well understood. Initial growth of the > OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few > motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running sessions > at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, but > over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people in 67 > UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds of > UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of > our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 > Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 > people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the > next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more > kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? > Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. > > Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated > individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can > credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This > is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level that > leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has > something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out > and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and contribute. > > Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? > > Jim > From John.Plocher at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 22:09:20 2008 From: John.Plocher at Sun.COM (John Plocher) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:09:20 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <48101600.9030500@Sun.Com> Jim Grisanzio wrote: > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > Cool with that? + lots! -John From david.c.stewart at intel.com Wed Apr 23 22:15:19 2008 From: david.c.stewart at intel.com (Stewart, David C) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:15:19 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea forDiscussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041378ED@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> +1 on the panel concept Are you thinking it would be more about how to attract the next 100,000 users? Or is it how we evolve the current structure to scale up to handle the next 100,000? I got the feeling from your description it was more about the latter, but the former seems more urgent. >-----Original Message----- >From: opensolaris-summit-bounces at opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- >summit-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Grisanzio >Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:28 PM >To: opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea >forDiscussion > >hey ... > >I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris >Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > >I'm looking for three things: > > * people to stop by and engage in the discussion, > * some suggestions about who should be on the panel itself, and > * some potential topics to kick around. > >Cool with that? > >Here's what I'm thinking as the context: > >OpenSolaris is 3 years old but grew from plans crafted a year before >that. So, the project is actually 4 years old, but the concept of >"advocacy" is still new and not well understood. Initial growth of the >OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few >motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running sessions >at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, but >over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people in 67 >UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds of >UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of >our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 >Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 >people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the >next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more >kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? >Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. > >Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated >individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can >credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This >is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level that >leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has >something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out >and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and contribute. > >Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? > >Jim >-- >http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris >_______________________________________________ >opensolaris-summit mailing list >opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 22:58:17 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:58:17 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea forDiscussion In-Reply-To: <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041378ED@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041378ED@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: <48102179.2060805@sun.com> Stewart, David C wrote: > +1 on the panel concept > > Are you thinking it would be more about how to attract the next 100,000 > users? Or is it how we evolve the current structure to scale up to > handle the next 100,000? I got the feeling from your description it was > more about the latter, but the former seems more urgent. > Both. There are many tens of thousands of people who don't even know we exist, and we have tens of thousands who are already here but are not necessarily active. I just grabbed 100K out of the air. I have no clue what a right number would be, but my intention is to emphasize scale -- which is something we really haven't done thus far and need to figure out from an advocacy perspective. We will have new tools -- the distro, the package repository, etc -- that will enable us to engage very large numbers of people who we've never met. So how we use those new tools to build a community that sticks around and contributes back is the key question to address. We already have community development operations under way, but we are adding new stuff that is quite different, and that will require new thinking and new engagement models. Part of this is involves infrastructure constraints and opportunities and part of it is just getting existing people talking to new people at multiple levels and working those new guys into the community. Also, keep in mind that we will have two sites to work with going forward -- .com and .org. We'll have to figure out who plays where and with what and under what rules. I don't have very many answers here, but these are some obvious issues we ought to talk about. :) Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 23:11:13 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:11:13 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] [advocacy-discuss] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100DED.9050809@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48100DED.9050809@sun.com> Message-ID: <48102481.1050803@sun.com> Terri Molini wrote: > I like it. > > How can I help? Cool. I'd love for you to participate. You've done more open source PR/AR than anyone at Sun, and you certainly know more reporters and analysts around the world than anyone around here. That's clearly a big part of advocacy. So, your view is critical. I think the community still needs to understand more of Sun's media relations strategy (why we do the things we do and how we do them), and how all that affects the community. And I think Sun needs to learn from the community about how to be more transparent and why transparency is a necessary condition for community development. Both sides have much to learn, and both sides have much to offer. No company has done open source at this scale. We are all learning. Can you address some of those issues? Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From cypromis at opensolaris.org Wed Apr 23 23:20:20 2008 From: cypromis at opensolaris.org (Michal Bielicki) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:20:20 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <2154BF08-E159-4982-BB89-68DE2FEC1775@opensolaris.org> On 24 Apr 2008, at 06:28, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... > > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > > I'm looking for three things: > > * people to stop by and engage in the discussion, > * some suggestions about who should be on the panel itself, and > * some potential topics to kick around. > > Cool with that? > > Here's what I'm thinking as the context: > > OpenSolaris is 3 years old but grew from plans crafted a year before > that. So, the project is actually 4 years old, but the concept of > "advocacy" is still new and not well understood. Initial growth of the > OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few > motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running > sessions > at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, > but > over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people > in 67 > UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds > of > UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of > our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 > Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 > people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the > next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more > kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? > Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. > > Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated > individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can > credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This > is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level > that > leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has > something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out > and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and > contribute. > > Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? It fits perfetly into what I mostly wanted to see at the summit. Some discussion about what advocacy in opensolaris is and where it is going. Nice :) > > > Jim > -- > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit Michal Bielicki OpenSolaris Core Contributor Software Porters Community Leader From Alfred.Peng at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 23:22:37 2008 From: Alfred.Peng at Sun.COM (Alfred Peng) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:22:37 +0800 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Party Bus Poll In-Reply-To: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> References: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> Message-ID: <4810272D.5040805@sun.com> Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > I'd like to take a quick poll as to how many of you plan on taking our > Party Bus to CommunityOne? > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=102&catname=Coaches > > We'll stop at the Scotts Valley Hilton on the way to San Francisco so > everyone can pick up their bags. > > Please just ping back with a yes if this sounds like something you might > do. Gonna be a hoppin' good time. > > -J > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > Woo, this bus is so cooooool! It's a pity that three of us will take the rental car. Cheers, -Alfred From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Wed Apr 23 23:50:09 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:50:09 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <48102DA1.3000707@sun.com> Joseph George wrote: > I like it too... > Joe ... maybe you can stop by and tell us a little about your experiences in India? I know you guys are doing some cool stuff there. I think one of the things we need to realize in OpenSolaris is that community building may be different around the world, and we can learn from how different groups are doing things. One of the things that I was impressed with in India was that you guys get the concept of contribution. Also, it's cool that Indian university students are eager to participate. Having some comments around that would be really helpful ... :) Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From peter.tribble at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 00:07:40 2008 From: peter.tribble at gmail.com (Peter Tribble) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:07:40 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Party Bus Poll In-Reply-To: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> References: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > I'd like to take a quick poll as to how many of you plan on taking our > Party Bus to CommunityOne? > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=102&catname=Coaches Count me in... -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ From Dan.Roberts at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 00:37:04 2008 From: Dan.Roberts at Sun.COM (Dan Roberts) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:37:04 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <481038A0.9070108@sun.com> Love it, would love to help as well. Dan Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... > > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > > I'm looking for three things: > > * people to stop by and engage in the discussion, > * some suggestions about who should be on the panel itself, and > * some potential topics to kick around. > > Cool with that? > > Here's what I'm thinking as the context: > > OpenSolaris is 3 years old but grew from plans crafted a year before > that. So, the project is actually 4 years old, but the concept of > "advocacy" is still new and not well understood. Initial growth of the > OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few > motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running sessions > at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, but > over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people in 67 > UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds of > UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of > our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 > Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 > people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the > next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more > kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? > Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. > > Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated > individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can > credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This > is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level that > leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has > something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out > and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and contribute. > > Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? > > Jim From Joe.G at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 01:14:52 2008 From: Joe.G at Sun.COM (Joseph George) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:44:52 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48102DA1.3000707@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48102DA1.3000707@sun.com> Message-ID: <8732E54B-8B24-4DA6-8DB6-0037CD45464F@Sun.COM> Of course. Glad to do it. I would also love to hear more such stories from around the world. ~Joe On 24-Apr-08, at 12:20 PM, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Joseph George wrote: >> I like it too... >> > > Joe ... maybe you can stop by and tell us a little about your > experiences in India? I know you guys are doing some cool stuff > there. I think one of the things we need to realize in OpenSolaris > is that community building may be different around the world, and we > can learn from how different groups are doing things. One of the > things that I was impressed with in India was that you guys get the > concept of contribution. Also, it's cool that Indian university > students are eager to participate. Having some comments around that > would be really helpful ... :) > > Jim > > -- > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ > From Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 02:17:25 2008 From: Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM (Glynn Foster) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:17:25 +1200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] [advocacy-discuss] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100DED.9050809@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48100DED.9050809@sun.com> Message-ID: <48105025.2010202@sun.com> Hey, Sounds great to me. Can we also shoe-in a press discussion http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1391 Would be good to get some runs on the board before we get there too, so feel free to contribute to the bugzilla discussion. Glynn Terri Molini wrote: > I like it. > > How can I help? > > -terri > > Jim Grisanzio wrote: >> hey ... >> >> I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris >> Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. From webmink at sun.com Thu Apr 24 04:40:30 2008 From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:40:30 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: I'm keen to help you if you need that, Jim. S. On Apr 24, 2008, at 05:28, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... > > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > > I'm looking for three things: > > * people to stop by and engage in the discussion, > * some suggestions about who should be on the panel itself, and > * some potential topics to kick around. > > Cool with that? > > Here's what I'm thinking as the context: > > OpenSolaris is 3 years old but grew from plans crafted a year before > that. So, the project is actually 4 years old, but the concept of > "advocacy" is still new and not well understood. Initial growth of the > OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few > motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running > sessions > at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, > but > over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people > in 67 > UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds > of > UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of > our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 > Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 > people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the > next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more > kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? > Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. > > Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated > individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can > credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This > is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level > that > leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has > something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out > and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and > contribute. > > Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? > > Jim > -- > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit From al at logical-approach.com Thu Apr 24 04:53:33 2008 From: al at logical-approach.com (Al Hopper) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:53:33 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <4cb4ba740804240453o407018edt1336c69f09de29f8@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... > > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > > I'm looking for three things: > > * people to stop by and engage in the discussion, > * some suggestions about who should be on the panel itself, and > * some potential topics to kick around. > > Cool with that? > > Here's what I'm thinking as the context: > > OpenSolaris is 3 years old but grew from plans crafted a year before > that. So, the project is actually 4 years old, but the concept of > "advocacy" is still new and not well understood. Initial growth of the > OpenSolaris community was slow, and advocacy was largely left to a few > motivated individuals -- engineers, managers, and users running sessions > at events around the world. User Groups started with little support, but > over time grew into the Advocacy Community Group with 5,000 people in 67 > UGs in two dozen countries. Not bad. Now how do we scale to hundreds of > UGs? How do we build a true user community on a global scale on top of > our community of coders? Also, the OpenSolaris community has 40 > Community Groups and a couple of hundred Projects and over 100,000 > people registered on the site. Again, not bad. Now how do we get the > next hundred thousand, and what do we want them to do? Do we need more > kernel code? Drivers? Packages and applications? Documentation? > Articles? News? Artwork? All good stuff but all quite different. > > Here's the point: Advocacy can not simply come from a few motivated > individuals. Advocacy needs to pervade everyone's activities so we can > credibly engage a variety of new people with a variety of skills. This > is not publicity. This is direct, unfiltered engagement at a level that > leads to active participation and contribution. Remember, everyone has > something to contribute and everyone is welcome, but we have to go out > and welcome people and make it easy for them to come back and contribute. > > Something like that. What do you think? Worth talking about? You bet. A big +1 Regards, -- Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc,Plano,TX al at logical-approach.com Voice: 972.379.2133 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/ From kmays2000 at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 05:27:17 2008 From: kmays2000 at gmail.com (ken mays) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:27:17 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> +1 ~ Ken Mays On 4/23/08, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > hey ... > > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 05:58:34 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:58:34 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> hey ... can someone who takes great notes volunteer to be the scribe for this session? I have a feeling that the conversation will be active and lively, and I'd like to capture as many ideas as possible so we can begin to implement as much as possible. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 06:00:35 2008 From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:00:35 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> Message-ID: <48108473.8000905@Sun.COM> Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... can someone who takes great notes volunteer to be the scribe for > this session? I have a feeling that the conversation will be active and > lively, and I'd like to capture as many ideas as possible so we can > begin to implement as much as possible. Hey Jim, I'll be happy to take notes. Bonnie From cypromis at opensolaris.org Thu Apr 24 06:06:00 2008 From: cypromis at opensolaris.org (Michal Bielicki) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:06:00 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> Message-ID: <42DD4AF8-4FBE-43E6-8BB4-C8C5BA0F392B@opensolaris.org> We will be recording as well, no ? So you will capture everything. I will also try to make it so that people can dial in either via SIP or via a US 1800 and take part in the discussion On 24 Apr 2008, at 14:58, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... can someone who takes great notes volunteer to be the scribe > for > this session? I have a feeling that the conversation will be active > and > lively, and I'd like to capture as many ideas as possible so we can > begin to implement as much as possible. > > Jim > -- > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit Michal Bielicki OpenSolaris Core Contributor Software Porters Community Leader From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 06:13:52 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:13:52 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <42DD4AF8-4FBE-43E6-8BB4-C8C5BA0F392B@opensolaris.org> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> <42DD4AF8-4FBE-43E6-8BB4-C8C5BA0F392B@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <48108790.50105@sun.com> Michal Bielicki wrote: > We will be recording as well, no ? So you will capture everything. I > will also try to make it so that people can dial in > either via SIP or via a US 1800 and take part in the discussion I think so. And that's great for people who will miss the session. But if I'm in the session I rarely go back and listen to the whole thing again in recorded form. I'd prefer a good set of notes to help extend the conversation into some clear action items. It will be good to have both, though. Perhaps we can have people writing summaries on IRC during the session to include anyone not in the room as well. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 06:29:46 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:29:46 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> Simon Phipps wrote: > I'm keen to help you if you need that, Jim. > Cool. Would you like to be on the panel? I think you have probably done more public outreach at more venues around the world than anyone here and could offer some of that experience as to what works and what doesn't. I'm especially interested in how different regions around the world actually do community development and how they interact with others. Anyone else interested in being on the panel itself? I think we need five people max. And diversity would be good as well. If people want to ping me privately that's fine, too. I'd like to get a list of names together so we can determine the best mix of personalities. It's important that the characters play well off each other. I think in this case the purpose of the panelists is to help generate conversation with the audience and other panelists. I'm not really interested in interviewing panelists so much as getting the right issues out there for active discussion. In other words, I don't want to do opening statements and go in a line and stuff like that. Just brief intros and dive in to the issues. Move fast. We all know each other. Also, panelists should be passionate about their positions and should have some expertise to share because they will be doing a significant amount of talking. I'll come up with an outline of specific issues for us to consider and also a limited framework in which we can work. More on that when I think of it. :) Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From Thomas.Wagner at sun.com Thu Apr 24 00:35:03 2008 From: Thomas.Wagner at sun.com (Thomas Wagner) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:35:03 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48108790.50105@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> <42DD4AF8-4FBE-43E6-8BB4-C8C5BA0F392B@opensolaris.org> <48108790.50105@sun.com> Message-ID: <20080424073503.GN11677@sun.com> written notes would be available on the popular search engines too... On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:13:52PM +0900, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Michal Bielicki wrote: > > We will be recording as well, no ? So you will capture everything. I > > will also try to make it so that people can dial in > > either via SIP or via a US 1800 and take part in the discussion > > I think so. And that's great for people who will miss the session. But > if I'm in the session I rarely go back and listen to the whole thing > again in recorded form. I'd prefer a good set of notes to help extend > the conversation into some clear action items. It will be good to have > both, though. Perhaps we can have people writing summaries on IRC during > the session to include anyone not in the room as well. > > Jim > -- Thomas http://blogs.sun.com/tom From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 06:32:15 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:32:15 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] [advocacy-discuss] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48105025.2010202@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48100DED.9050809@sun.com> <48105025.2010202@sun.com> Message-ID: <48108BDF.2080507@sun.com> Glynn Foster wrote: > Hey, > > Sounds great to me. Can we also shoe-in a press discussion > > http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1391 > > Would be good to get some runs on the board before we get there too, so feel > free to contribute to the bugzilla discussion. > > Yah, I think with Terri and Dan there (and I see others from marketing as well) we'll have a lot of expertise on press interactions. I, too, would love to see the Advocacy CG more involved in press/analyst relations. Jim -- http://blogss.un.com/jimgris From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 06:41:46 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:41:46 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48108473.8000905@Sun.COM> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> <48108473.8000905@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <48108E1A.6050805@sun.com> Bonnie Corwin wrote: > > Hey Jim, > > I'll be happy to take notes. > Great. Thanks. It would be good to get your perspective, and Tim's as well, on how advocacy fits in with various engineering management issues. My take is that this stuff is all related and cuts across marketing and engineering quite cleanly (but in different ways, obviously. But who knows. I could be all wrong. :) I'd like to know if I'm missing some point so view on this. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From colin at mysql.com Thu Apr 24 05:27:30 2008 From: colin at mysql.com (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:27:30 +0800 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> Message-ID: <48107CB2.7070603@mysql.com> On 4/24/08 Jim Grisanzio wrote: > I'd like to moderate a panel session about Advocacy at the > OpenSolaris > Summit. Slides banned. Only conversation allowed. Would be of great interest to me as well. There are many parallels in growing and building community that we can share, with regards to OpenSolaris, OpenOffice.org and MySQL The conversation will also provide good fodder for the CommunityOne event, I'm sure Kind Regards -- Colin Charles, Community Relations Manager, APAC Database Group, Sun Microsystems Inc., http://www.mysql.com/ Tel: +6012 204 3201 (Malaysia) | colincharles (Skype) Web: http://www.bytebot.net/blog/ MySQL Forge: http://forge.mysql.com/ From colin at mysql.com Thu Apr 24 05:29:09 2008 From: colin at mysql.com (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:29:09 +0800 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Party Bus Poll In-Reply-To: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> References: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> Message-ID: <48107D15.9010104@mysql.com> On 4/24/08 Jesse Silver wrote: Hi! > I'd like to take a quick poll as to how many of you plan on taking > our > Party Bus to CommunityOne? > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=102&catname=Coaches > > We'll stop at the Scotts Valley Hilton on the way to San Francisco so > everyone can pick up their bags. Sounds good. I want to go into San Francisco on Sunday evening from the Hilton, so this is definitely a +1 for me -- Colin Charles, Community Relations Manager, APAC Database Group, Sun Microsystems Inc., http://www.mysql.com/ Tel: +6012 204 3201 (Malaysia) | colincharles (Skype) Web: http://www.bytebot.net/blog/ MySQL Forge: http://forge.mysql.com/ From Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 07:25:16 2008 From: Deirdre.Straughan at Sun.COM (Deirdre Straughan) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:25:16 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> Message-ID: <4810984C.7090907@sun.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 07:49:03 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:19:03 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Party Bus Poll In-Reply-To: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> References: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> Message-ID: <319ee2b10804240749h70546bbcpb76f6f93da0ced1@mail.gmail.com> On 4/24/08, Jesse Silver wrote: > > We'll stop at the Scotts Valley Hilton on the way to San Francisco so > everyone can pick up their bags. > > Please just ping back with a yes if this sounds like something you might > do. Gonna be a hoppin' good time. > Yes, would like to join in. -Shiv From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 08:06:59 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:36:59 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Personal request - delivery address required at SFO Message-ID: <319ee2b10804240806lef31d9fie4c395c7325ac32@mail.gmail.com> I intend to buy a dell laptop online since some of the features/variants arent available here and the difference between US & Indian prices is considerable (>35%). The hitch is that I do not have an address where I can request for the laptop to be delivered. It would be great if someone can provide an address where they can receive the same on my behalf. A San Francisco address would be suitable since C1 & JavaOne gives more time for the shipment. Thanks in advance & apologies for the personal request on the list. -Shiv From david.c.stewart at intel.com Thu Apr 24 08:30:21 2008 From: david.c.stewart at intel.com (Stewart, David C) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:30:21 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An IdeaforDiscussion In-Reply-To: <48102179.2060805@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041378ED@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> <48102179.2060805@sun.com> Message-ID: <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F04137A88@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> OK, the reason I ask is that attracting the growth is a bit of a different problem than the infrastructure to handle the growth. One is a marketing challenge and the other is an administrative / technical challenge. It might be good to think about Advocacy in terms of achieving a tipping point for OpenSolaris. There are a number of techniques described in the Malcolm Gladwell book of the same name (recruiting Mavens, achieving stickiness, etc) which perhaps have already been contemplated. But this could be a rich vein of discussion for further efforts. On the other hand, the "scaling the infrastructure" discussion has a lot of interesting challenges as well. What are the inhibitors or barriers present in the current infrastructure which put people off. Some have been addressed, now let's tackle the next set. Should be a good discussion. Thanks for proposing it! >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM [mailto:Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:58 PM >To: Stewart, David C >Cc: opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >Subject: Re: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An >IdeaforDiscussion > >Stewart, David C wrote: >> +1 on the panel concept >> >> Are you thinking it would be more about how to attract the next 100,000 >> users? Or is it how we evolve the current structure to scale up to >> handle the next 100,000? I got the feeling from your description it was >> more about the latter, but the former seems more urgent. >> > >Both. There are many tens of thousands of people who don't even know we >exist, and we have tens of thousands who are already here but are not >necessarily active. > >I just grabbed 100K out of the air. I have no clue what a right number >would be, but my intention is to emphasize scale -- which is something >we really haven't done thus far and need to figure out from an advocacy >perspective. We will have new tools -- the distro, the package >repository, etc -- that will enable us to engage very large numbers of >people who we've never met. So how we use those new tools to build a >community that sticks around and contributes back is the key question to >address. We already have community development operations under way, but >we are adding new stuff that is quite different, and that will require >new thinking and new engagement models. Part of this is involves >infrastructure constraints and opportunities and part of it is just >getting existing people talking to new people at multiple levels and >working those new guys into the community. Also, keep in mind that we >will have two sites to work with going forward -- .com and .org. We'll >have to figure out who plays where and with what and under what rules. I >don't have very many answers here, but these are some obvious issues we >ought to talk about. :) > >Jim > >-- >http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From sch at sun.com Thu Apr 24 09:38:29 2008 From: sch at sun.com (Stephen Hahn) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:38:29 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/22, 8am PT In-Reply-To: <480FED19.3020409@sun.com> References: <480E14AB.4080508@sun.com> <480FE776.70309@sun.com> <480FED19.3020409@sun.com> Message-ID: <20080424163828.GE15978@eng.sun.com> * Glynn Foster [2008-04-24 02:14]: > > > Jesse Silver wrote: > > To follow up on this: > > > > Jim- any luck w/ finding leaders for defect tracking? > > Valerie's attending, so she has as good a knowledge as anyone else in terms of > bug tracking. It would be good to have Stephen there, obviously. I'm somehow supposed to be in San Francisco and Santa Cruz at the same time. My hope right now is to visit for a couple of hours on Saturday afternoon (with kids in tow). - Stephen -- sch at sun.com http://blogs.sun.com/sch/ From webmink at sun.com Thu Apr 24 09:54:49 2008 From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:54:49 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> Message-ID: <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> On Apr 24, 2008, at 14:29, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote: >> I'm keen to help you if you need that, Jim. >> > > Cool. Would you like to be on the panel? I think you have probably > done more public outreach at more venues around the world than > anyone here and could offer some of that experience as to what works > and what doesn't. I'm especially interested in how different regions > around the world actually do community development and how they > interact with others. I'd be delighted, yes please. > > > Anyone else interested in being on the panel itself? > > I think we need five people max. And diversity would be good as > well. If people want to ping me privately that's fine, too. I'd like > to get a list of names together so we can determine the best mix of > personalities. It's important that the characters play well off each > other. > > I think in this case the purpose of the panelists is to help > generate conversation with the audience and other panelists. I'm not > really interested in interviewing panelists so much as getting the > right issues out there for active discussion. In other words, I > don't want to do opening statements and go in a line and stuff like > that. Just brief intros and dive in to the issues. Move fast. We all > know each other. Also, panelists should be passionate about their > positions and should have some expertise to share because they will > be doing a significant amount of talking. > > I'll come up with an outline of specific issues for us to consider > and also a limited framework in which we can work. More on that when > I think of it. :) In my experience these panels work best when the panelists know each other well enough to continue an existing conversation. If I am arranging one I try to get people together beforehand so the panel itself is off to a warm start. And yes, discussion is best, I hate sequential-presentation approaches. Maybe a goldfish bowl would be smart? S. From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 09:58:47 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:58:47 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <42DD4AF8-4FBE-43E6-8BB4-C8C5BA0F392B@opensolaris.org> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> <42DD4AF8-4FBE-43E6-8BB4-C8C5BA0F392B@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <4810BC47.6060604@sun.com> The whole event will be semi-professionally recorded on video. Michal Bielicki wrote: > We will be recording as well, no ? So you will capture everything. I > will also try to make it so that people can dial in > either via SIP or via a US 1800 and take part in the discussion > > On 24 Apr 2008, at 14:58, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > >> hey ... can someone who takes great notes volunteer to be the scribe >> for >> this session? I have a feeling that the conversation will be active >> and >> lively, and I'd like to capture as many ideas as possible so we can >> begin to implement as much as possible. >> >> Jim >> -- >> http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> > > Michal Bielicki > OpenSolaris Core Contributor > Software Porters Community Leader > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, J From trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu Thu Apr 24 19:31:45 2008 From: trisk+opensolaris at acm.jhu.edu (Albert Lee) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:31:45 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] C1 Party Bus Poll In-Reply-To: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> References: <480FA366.5080809@sun.com> Message-ID: <1209090705.1035.6.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:00 -0700, Jesse Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > I'd like to take a quick poll as to how many of you plan on taking our > Party Bus to CommunityOne? > > http://www.legrandeaffaire.com/display.php?h=ourfleet&id=102&catname=Coaches > > We'll stop at the Scotts Valley Hilton on the way to San Francisco so > everyone can pick up their bags. > > Please just ping back with a yes if this sounds like something you might > do. Gonna be a hoppin' good time. I'm all over it (bow chicka wow wow). Thanks, Jesse! From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 22:19:42 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:42 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> Message-ID: <481169EE.10909@sun.com> Simon Phipps wrote: > Maybe a goldfish bowl would be > smart? > ? Is this what the Jini community used to do? Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 22:38:52 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:08:52 +0530 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Personal request - delivery address required at SFO In-Reply-To: <319ee2b10804240806lef31d9fie4c395c7325ac32@mail.gmail.com> References: <319ee2b10804240806lef31d9fie4c395c7325ac32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <319ee2b10804242238w6e8816eem9c696349dc45a636@mail.gmail.com> On 4/24/08, S h i v wrote: > > The hitch is that I do not have an address where I can request for the > laptop to be delivered. It would be great if someone can provide an > address where they can receive the same on my behalf. > I got *excellent* response to my late request. Was trying for a few days to get some of my old contacts to work. After things didn't quite work out decided to try summit alias since dates were closing by. Sincere thanks to all those who responded. Going with Steve's (Stephen Lau) offer. -Shiv From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 23:38:13 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:38:13 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An IdeaforDiscussion In-Reply-To: <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F04137A88@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041378ED@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> <48102179.2060805@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F04137A88@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: <48117C55.7020708@sun.com> Stewart, David C wrote: > OK, the reason I ask is that attracting the growth is a bit of a > different problem than the infrastructure to handle the growth. One is > a marketing challenge and the other is an administrative / technical > challenge. > Yes, I think they are different challenges. But I hold the view that advocacy is much more than marketing. Marketing is certainly part of advocacy, but advocacy has to include many disciplines -- project management, engineering, marketing, etc -- that work together for a common purpose that is /not/ exclusive to any of them individually. That's been the biggest pet peeve of mine on this project -- expanding the notion of what "advocacy" actually means. For advocacy to be credible it must be multi-disciplinary, and that supports everyone involved. > It might be good to think about Advocacy in terms of achieving a tipping > point for OpenSolaris. There are a number of techniques described in > the Malcolm Gladwell book of the same name (recruiting Mavens, achieving > stickiness, etc) which perhaps have already been contemplated. But this > could be a rich vein of discussion for further efforts. > Yep. Read it. Excellent. Agree with most of it. It's been criticized recently, though, which is also interesting, since there are many points of view on this and some are even getting back to more traditional techniques and documenting their value. Imagine that! Anyway, the gold standard for me on this issue is Cluetrain. I don't think anything can touch it for getting the basics of advocacy right. Just one opinion. :) > On the other hand, the "scaling the infrastructure" discussion has a lot > of interesting challenges as well. What are the inhibitors or barriers > present in the current infrastructure which put people off. Some have > been addressed, now let's tackle the next set. > Well, we are going to have a Website CG soon (it will be on the OGB schedule for next week) to help focus those infrastructure conversations, and that will be the arena where we talk in most detail about about site upgrades (website-discuss currently). This is another issue we need to remember: site constraints, although real for certain functions, don't preclude good community building and advocacy work if we focus on implementing the basics right. What I'm *most* interested in moving in this discussion is our attitude. Our perspective. Tools are good and we all want more, but a whole heck of a lot of community building can be done by empowered individuals who have something to share way out in the field. > Should be a good discussion. Thanks for proposing it! > Cool. You know, you work at a really big company that participates in OpenSolaris. The biggest outside Sun, I guess. It would be good to hear about your experiences around the world talking about OpenSolaris from your platform at Intel engineering. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 24 23:56:20 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:56:20 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48107CB2.7070603@mysql.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48107CB2.7070603@mysql.com> Message-ID: <48118094.6030703@sun.com> Colin Charles wrote: > Would be of great interest to me as well. There are many parallels in > growing and building community that we can share, with regards to > OpenSolaris, OpenOffice.org and MySQL > > The conversation will also provide good fodder for the CommunityOne > event, I'm sure > > Yah, I'd love to hear more from other communities about this. I've been heads down so much in OpenSolaris these past four years that I don't know much of anything else (as pathetic as that sounds). Although I met with a couple of MySQL guys recently http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/entry/mysql_meeting_at_sun_japan and learned a great deal about looking at community building somewhat differently. We are different from MySQL, obviously, but the notion of building a large user community from a perspective that is /not/ marketing and /not/ engineering is interesting. And, of course OpenOffice has a pile of users out there, so they ought to know tons about this. Please stop by ... :) Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Fri Apr 25 00:01:45 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:01:45 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <4810984C.7090907@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <4810984C.7090907@sun.com> Message-ID: <481181D9.3000705@sun.com> Deirdre Straughan wrote: > I might have something useful to contribute to a panel. I am new to > /this /community, but have experience building and sustaining other > communities, back in the days when communicating on the Internet was > still a radical thing to do. Ok, cool. I have a few private mails from people offering to be on the panel, too. Let me collect everyone and see where we are next week. :) Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Fri Apr 25 00:14:13 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:14:13 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <481169EE.10909@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> <481169EE.10909@sun.com> Message-ID: <481184C5.1010606@sun.com> Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote: > >> Maybe a goldfish bowl would be >> smart? >> >> > > ? > > Is this what the Jini community used to do? > By the way, I experienced what the Jini community used to do and wrote about it way back here: http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/entry/i_dream_of_jini I'd love to see us try something like this at the end of the conference. It could be quite moving, actually, but as I remember it was really low key. I have a feeling a session on advocacy for OpenSolaris may be somewhat more, oh, active. I'm not saying that this is what you were suggesting, but it's the only thing I can think of "fish" like. :) The larger point of the Jini Fishbowl is that they did it every year. It would be great for us to think in those terms. Something like a tradition of some sort ... Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Fri Apr 25 01:00:13 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:00:13 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <4810BC47.6060604@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <1f7da8080804240527x4a65f83dne2cd20046fb67e2b@mail.gmail.com> <481083FA.2080803@sun.com> <42DD4AF8-4FBE-43E6-8BB4-C8C5BA0F392B@opensolaris.org> <4810BC47.6060604@sun.com> Message-ID: <48118F8D.6080200@sun.com> Jesse Silver wrote: > The whole event will be semi-professionally recorded on video. That's cool, Jesse. Semi-professional is best. Oh, and by the way, I don't know what the room format looks like, but here's what I'm thinking. Let me know if it's ok. No podium. I'll be walking around a lot and I'm uncomfortable with podiums anyway. And the panelists should be on stools or chairs or something but there shouldn't be a table in front of them. In other words, nothing separating me and the panelists from the audience. And I hope we are not on a stage or anything like that, but we'll deal if we are and you can't get around it. Keep us on ground floor if you can. :) The whole elevation bit for speakers is garbage. If the room is small enough I guess we won't need mics, but if you are recording this I think you may for the sake of the digital audience. If so, then we'll need a bunch of mics so people can pass them around quickly. Too much time is spent running across the room to get a mic in someone hands in the middle of the row after they already start talking at these things. We'll need a few mic people spread out throughout the room so it's just a few seconds before someone has a mic. I want the conversation to feed off itself, and that requires speed. I guess we can easily get some mic volunteers before the session easily enough. Cool with that? That's pretty much it from me. Everything else will be just content flow, a few rules, and a pile of issues. I'll work on that next week along with finalizing a panel. And I like Simon's idea of getting the panel together beforehand to go over things. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From david.c.stewart at intel.com Fri Apr 25 08:10:11 2008 From: david.c.stewart at intel.com (Stewart, David C) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:10:11 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An IdeaforDiscussion In-Reply-To: <48117C55.7020708@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041378ED@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> <48102179.2060805@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F04137A88@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> <48117C55.7020708@sun.com> Message-ID: <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F0417AD27@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM [mailto:Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM] > >Stewart, David C wrote: >> OK, the reason I ask is that attracting the growth is a bit of a >> different problem than the infrastructure to handle the growth. One is >> a marketing challenge and the other is an administrative / technical >> challenge. >> > >Yes, I think they are different challenges. But I hold the view that >advocacy is much more than marketing. Marketing is certainly part of >advocacy, but advocacy has to include many disciplines -- project >management, engineering, marketing, etc -- that work together for a >common purpose that is /not/ exclusive to any of them individually. "Marketing" to be successful in the open source context must include the technical, of course. I didn't mean to insult anyone's intelligence here, and I know it can be tricky, so let's assume I didn't use that term. >> It might be good to think about Advocacy in terms of achieving a tipping >> point for OpenSolaris. There are a number of techniques described in >> the Malcolm Gladwell book of the same name (recruiting Mavens, achieving >> stickiness, etc) which perhaps have already been contemplated. But this >> could be a rich vein of discussion for further efforts. >> > >Yep. Read it. Excellent. Agree with most of it. Actually, I disagreed with most of it, but that's off topic. It's probably because they don't treat the topics with any intellectual rigor. But it's an intriguing idea anyway. >Cool. You know, you work at a really big company that participates in >OpenSolaris. The biggest outside Sun, I guess. It would be good to hear >about your experiences around the world talking about OpenSolaris from >your platform at Intel engineering. I never seem to be at a loss for words somehow... From Sang.Shin at Sun.COM Sat Apr 26 08:15:19 2008 From: Sang.Shin at Sun.COM (Sang Shin) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:15:19 -0400 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48118094.6030703@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48107CB2.7070603@mysql.com> <48118094.6030703@sun.com> Message-ID: <48134707.40809@sun.com> Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Colin Charles wrote: >> Would be of great interest to me as well. There are many parallels in >> growing and building community that we can share, with regards to >> OpenSolaris, OpenOffice.org and MySQL >> >> The conversation will also provide good fodder for the CommunityOne >> event, I'm sure >> >> > > Yah, I'd love to hear more from other communities about this. I've been > heads down so much in OpenSolaris these past four years that I don't > know much of anything else (as pathetic as that sounds). Although I met > with a couple of MySQL guys recently > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/entry/mysql_meeting_at_sun_japan and > learned a great deal about looking at community building somewhat > differently. We are different from MySQL, obviously, but the notion of > building a large user community from a perspective that is /not/ > marketing and /not/ engineering is interesting. And, of course > OpenOffice has a pile of users out there, so they ought to know tons > about this. > > Please stop by ... :) Just to introduce myself. My name is Sang Shin and I've been part of Technology Outreach group headed by Matt Thompson. A couple of things that might be relevant to this thread are -The worldwide college students community actively engaged by Sun Campus Ambassadors (right now with more than 500 all over the world) is being introduced to OpenSolaris in a very active fashion. (If you are subscribing ambassadors at sun.com alias, you will see lots of postings like "I gave presentation on OpenSolaris to my fellow students"...) This unique community (campus ambassadors) deserves a special attention. -Our group is also actively engaged in supporting worldwide JUG (Java Users Group) community. Through pro-active approach we've taken during the past couple of years (Aaron Houston is doing a wonderful job constantly engaging sometimes hand-holding JUG leaders to the overall community agenda, the overall Java community benefited a lot in my opinion. I am assuming a similar approach will help OpenSolaris community as well. Sang > > Jim > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Shin, sang.shin at sun.com http://www.javapassion.com/SangSchedule.html#Bio http://www.javapassion.com/SangSchedule.html (Life is worth living... with Passion!) --------------------------------------------------------------- From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Sat Apr 26 08:44:31 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:44:31 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48134707.40809@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48107CB2.7070603@mysql.com> <48118094.6030703@sun.com> <48134707.40809@sun.com> Message-ID: <48134DDF.3050707@sun.com> Sang Shin wrote: > Just to introduce myself. My name is Sang Shin hi ... welcome :) I hope to see you at the Summit. > and I've been part > of Technology Outreach group headed by Matt Thompson. > > A couple of things that might be relevant to this thread are > > -The worldwide college students community actively engaged by > Sun Campus Ambassadors (right now with more than 500 all over > the world) is being introduced to OpenSolaris in a very active > fashion. (If you are subscribing ambassadors at sun.com alias, > you will see lots of postings like "I gave presentation on > OpenSolaris to my fellow students"...) This unique community > (campus ambassadors) deserves a special attention. > I know the CAs are doing an amazing job, but I know that from working at Sun and going to some events. We need to get that information outside Sun so the OpenSolaris community sees it and can feed off it and help it grow. I think the Advocacy CG would be a nice home for the CAs -- either to subscribe to advocacy-discuss or to sponsor an OpenSolaris CA list inside the Advocacy CG so we can directly connect the CAs to the main community on opensolaris.org. We have had some CAs propose UGs as well. I can't handle 500 UGs at this point in terms of projects inside the Advocacy CG, but we surely can easily gather everyone on an open community list to share ideas and experiences from around the world. I'd love to help make that happen. :) > -Our group is also actively engaged in supporting worldwide JUG > (Java Users Group) community. Through pro-active approach > we've taken during the past couple of years (Aaron Houston > is doing a wonderful job constantly engaging sometimes > hand-holding JUG leaders to the overall community agenda, > the overall Java community benefited a lot in my opinion. > I am assuming a similar approach will help OpenSolaris community > as well > Yes, I know Aaron, and he's been around Advocacy recently (which is cool). You guys are always welcome to participate in the Advocacy CG, which sponsors all of the OpenSolaris UGs. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Mon Apr 28 08:30:15 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:30:15 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> Message-ID: <4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> Simon Phipps wrote: > Maybe a goldfish bowl would be > smart? > Simon and I talked about this on IM tonight. I love this idea. We have to do this. Basically, you start a conversation with 4 people and one empty chair. As soon as the conversation starts, anyone from the audience can take that 5th chair and join the conversation. When that happens, one of the existing panel members has to give up his/her seat so there is always an empty chair for someone to take. Repeat for however long the conversation lasts. There are a few more rules to it, but that's the gist. The conversation flows around whoever the current panel is. Want to influence the conversation? You have to take that chair and contribute. I updated the wiki to read: "Special Advocacy Panel -- The OpenSolaris Fishbowl: Helping the world get involved in the community. (Moderator: Jim Grisanzio)" Next I'll write up some more detailed instructions and some key issues to seed the discussion. I have some panelists who have volunteered, so I'll ping them tomorrow to see if they'd like to be the initial set. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Mon Apr 28 08:35:51 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:35:51 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> <4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> Message-ID: <4815EED7.40200@sun.com> Jesse ... can we have the room format a bit different than I suggested before? If possible, the perfect setting for this session is having the panel chairs in the middle and the audience in concentric circles around the outside. Jim Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote: > >> Maybe a goldfish bowl would be >> smart? >> >> > > Simon and I talked about this on IM tonight. I love this idea. We have > to do this. > > Basically, you start a conversation with 4 people and one empty chair. > As soon as the conversation starts, anyone from the audience can take > that 5th chair and join the conversation. When that happens, one of the > existing panel members has to give up his/her seat so there is always an > empty chair for someone to take. Repeat for however long the > conversation lasts. There are a few more rules to it, but that's the > gist. The conversation flows around whoever the current panel is. Want > to influence the conversation? You have to take that chair and contribute. > > I updated the wiki to read: "Special Advocacy Panel -- The OpenSolaris > Fishbowl: Helping the world get involved in the community. > (Moderator: Jim Grisanzio)" > > Next I'll write up some more detailed instructions and some key issues > to seed the discussion. I have some panelists who have volunteered, so > I'll ping them tomorrow to see if they'd like to be the initial set. > > Jim > -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Mon Apr 28 11:10:26 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:10:26 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <4815EED7.40200@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> <4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> <4815EED7.40200@sun.com> Message-ID: <48161312.6050405@sun.com> Jim- Not possible. Let's deal with this at the summit. We aren't in a convention hall type facility where we can have any set up we want...it's a university classroom. It will really be up to us to make due with what we have. Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Jesse ... can we have the room format a bit different than I suggested > before? If possible, the perfect setting for this session is having the > panel chairs in the middle and the audience in concentric circles around > the outside. > > Jim > > > Jim Grisanzio wrote: > >> Simon Phipps wrote: >> >> >>> Maybe a goldfish bowl would be >>> smart? >>> >>> >>> >> Simon and I talked about this on IM tonight. I love this idea. We have >> to do this. >> >> Basically, you start a conversation with 4 people and one empty chair. >> As soon as the conversation starts, anyone from the audience can take >> that 5th chair and join the conversation. When that happens, one of the >> existing panel members has to give up his/her seat so there is always an >> empty chair for someone to take. Repeat for however long the >> conversation lasts. There are a few more rules to it, but that's the >> gist. The conversation flows around whoever the current panel is. Want >> to influence the conversation? You have to take that chair and contribute. >> >> I updated the wiki to read: "Special Advocacy Panel -- The OpenSolaris >> Fishbowl: Helping the world get involved in the community. >> (Moderator: Jim Grisanzio)" >> >> Next I'll write up some more detailed instructions and some key issues >> to seed the discussion. I have some panelists who have volunteered, so >> I'll ping them tomorrow to see if they'd like to be the initial set. >> >> Jim >> >> From david.c.stewart at intel.com Mon Apr 28 11:12:40 2008 From: david.c.stewart at intel.com (Stewart, David C) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:12:40 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48161312.6050405@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com><48108B4A.2060602@sun.com><0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com><4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> <4815EED7.40200@sun.com> <48161312.6050405@sun.com> Message-ID: <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041BF9DC@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> Could you do it outside in the courtyard? >-----Original Message----- >From: opensolaris-summit-bounces at opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- >summit-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Silver >Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:10 AM >To: Jim Grisanzio >Cc: opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >Subject: Re: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for >Discussion > >Jim- > >Not possible. Let's deal with this at the summit. We aren't in a >convention hall type facility where we can have any set up we >want...it's a university classroom. It will really be up to us to make >due with what we have. > >Jim Grisanzio wrote: >> Jesse ... can we have the room format a bit different than I suggested >> before? If possible, the perfect setting for this session is having the >> panel chairs in the middle and the audience in concentric circles around >> the outside. >> >> Jim >> >> >> Jim Grisanzio wrote: >> >>> Simon Phipps wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Maybe a goldfish bowl would be >>>> smart? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Simon and I talked about this on IM tonight. I love this idea. We have >>> to do this. >>> >>> Basically, you start a conversation with 4 people and one empty chair. >>> As soon as the conversation starts, anyone from the audience can take >>> that 5th chair and join the conversation. When that happens, one of the >>> existing panel members has to give up his/her seat so there is always an >>> empty chair for someone to take. Repeat for however long the >>> conversation lasts. There are a few more rules to it, but that's the >>> gist. The conversation flows around whoever the current panel is. Want >>> to influence the conversation? You have to take that chair and >contribute. >>> >>> I updated the wiki to read: "Special Advocacy Panel -- The OpenSolaris >>> Fishbowl: Helping the world get involved in the community. >>> (Moderator: Jim Grisanzio)" >>> >>> Next I'll write up some more detailed instructions and some key issues >>> to seed the discussion. I have some panelists who have volunteered, so >>> I'll ping them tomorrow to see if they'd like to be the initial set. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ >opensolaris-summit mailing list >opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Mon Apr 28 11:16:35 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:16:35 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041BF9DC@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> <4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> <4815EED7.40200@sun.com> <48161312.6050405@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041BF9DC@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: <48161483.8000708@sun.com> We'll be videotaping everything - that will be setup inside. Stewart, David C wrote: > Could you do it outside in the courtyard? > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: opensolaris-summit-bounces at opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- >> summit-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Silver >> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:10 AM >> To: Jim Grisanzio >> Cc: opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> Subject: Re: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea >> > for > >> Discussion >> >> Jim- >> >> Not possible. Let's deal with this at the summit. We aren't in a >> convention hall type facility where we can have any set up we >> want...it's a university classroom. It will really be up to us to make >> due with what we have. >> >> Jim Grisanzio wrote: >> >>> Jesse ... can we have the room format a bit different than I >>> > suggested > >>> before? If possible, the perfect setting for this session is having >>> > the > >>> panel chairs in the middle and the audience in concentric circles >>> > around > >>> the outside. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> Jim Grisanzio wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Simon Phipps wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Maybe a goldfish bowl would be >>>>> smart? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Simon and I talked about this on IM tonight. I love this idea. We >>>> > have > >>>> to do this. >>>> >>>> Basically, you start a conversation with 4 people and one empty >>>> > chair. > >>>> As soon as the conversation starts, anyone from the audience can >>>> > take > >>>> that 5th chair and join the conversation. When that happens, one of >>>> > the > >>>> existing panel members has to give up his/her seat so there is >>>> > always an > >>>> empty chair for someone to take. Repeat for however long the >>>> conversation lasts. There are a few more rules to it, but that's the >>>> gist. The conversation flows around whoever the current panel is. >>>> > Want > >>>> to influence the conversation? You have to take that chair and >>>> >> contribute. >> >>>> I updated the wiki to read: "Special Advocacy Panel -- The >>>> > OpenSolaris > >>>> Fishbowl: Helping the world get involved in the community. >>>> (Moderator: Jim Grisanzio)" >>>> >>>> Next I'll write up some more detailed instructions and some key >>>> > issues > >>>> to seed the discussion. I have some panelists who have volunteered, >>>> > so > >>>> I'll ping them tomorrow to see if they'd like to be the initial set. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Plocher at Sun.COM Mon Apr 28 11:34:41 2008 From: John.Plocher at Sun.COM (John Plocher) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:34:41 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48161483.8000708@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> <4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> <4815EED7.40200@sun.com> <48161312.6050405@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041BF9DC@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> <48161483.8000708@sun.com> Message-ID: <481618C1.3020304@Sun.Com> Jesse Silver wrote: > We'll be videotaping everything - that will be setup inside. I hope we can be somewhat flexible :-) +1 on the fishbowl - it has the potential of easily being the *most* interesting part of the weekend! -John From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Mon Apr 28 12:37:47 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:37:47 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <481618C1.3020304@Sun.Com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> <4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> <4815EED7.40200@sun.com> <48161312.6050405@sun.com> <17ECA713899D9A48AA15BB0D921ACA5F041BF9DC@orsmsx413.amr.corp.intel.com> <48161483.8000708@sun.com> <481618C1.3020304@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <4816278B.5050400@sun.com> I'm excited about the session too! I'm trying to be as flexible as possible, - sorry if my messages sound otherwise. I am a one man show here and don't think I can customize room or table arrangements for one session. We do have an auditorium that we can use for this. Jim- Let's talk on Saturday when together, and figure out the best plan for you. John Plocher wrote: > Jesse Silver wrote: >> We'll be videotaping everything - that will be setup inside. > > I hope we can be somewhat flexible :-) > > +1 on the fishbowl - it has the potential of easily being the > *most* interesting part of the weekend! > > -John > From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Mon Apr 28 13:49:17 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:49:17 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Advocacy Panel Discussion: An Idea for Discussion In-Reply-To: <48161312.6050405@sun.com> References: <48100C53.7070303@sun.com> <48108B4A.2060602@sun.com> <0D5EC04A-5B61-4146-B65E-360FCE8513F1@sun.com> <4815ED87.6060304@sun.com> <4815EED7.40200@sun.com> <48161312.6050405@sun.com> Message-ID: <4816384D.4030307@sun.com> Jesse Silver wrote: > Jim- > > Not possible. Let's deal with this at the summit. We aren't in a > convention hall type facility where we can have any set up we > want...it's a university classroom. It will really be up to us to make > due with what we have. Ok, no worries. We'll make it work. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Mon Apr 28 15:08:01 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:08:01 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] REMINDER: Planning meeting tomorrow, 4/29, 8am PT Message-ID: <48164AC1.2020109@sun.com> > > Reminder there is a planning meetings tomorrow at 8am PT. All are welcomed to attend: > > > > OpenSolaris Developer Summit Planning Meeting > > Tuesday, April 29th > > 8:00am PT > > > > (866)230-6968 > > Int'l Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: 213-787-0528 > ACCESS CODE: 2192132 The 3:30 meeting has been canceled due to historically low attendance. From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 07:39:52 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:39:52 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide Message-ID: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> Please review for 8am meeting. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: summit guide.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 223074 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 08:24:43 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:24:43 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] [Fwd: video release (email blurb)] Message-ID: <48173DBB.2030706@sun.com> Video release for review during meeting: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: video release (email blurb) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:31:09 -0700 From: Tedd To: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM All conference sessions will be videotaped. The presenter agrees to be recorded in both audio and video formats to be released under a creative commons license, and also commercially, after the conference, including internet downloads and streaming. The presenter may receive a free copy of their presentation and is free to distribute it as they see fit. Call Media Archives at 1 (800) 952-5678 for your personal copy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alan.Coopersmith at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 08:44:05 2008 From: Alan.Coopersmith at Sun.COM (Alan Coopersmith) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:44:05 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> Message-ID: <48174245.9090606@sun.com> Jesse Silver wrote: > Please review for 8am meeting. I see the map has directions from the hotel to the summit - should the text as well, or are they obvious enough? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 08:40:02 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:40:02 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <48174245.9090606@sun.com> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> <48174245.9090606@sun.com> Message-ID: <48174152.5060903@sun.com> Great point Alan. I'll add as suggested. Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Jesse Silver wrote: > >> Please review for 8am meeting. >> > > I see the map has directions from the hotel to the summit - should > the text as well, or are they obvious enough? > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 08:51:55 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:51:55 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/29, 8am Message-ID: <4817441B.1080802@sun.com> Meeting- Thorsten Frueauf Tim Cramer Jeff Cheeney Joerg Schilling Dave Stewart Jesse Silver Chris Baker Jim Walker Sara Dornsife Schedule: Looks good, but need leader for Desktop Tech session. Stewart suggests we find non-Sun leader. Jesse will investigate. Updates: --We are videotaping everything! --Friday reception includes dinner, will be out from 8pm to midnight. Everyone will get drink tickets. --Saturday night will be warm during the day, but cold at night. Our Saturday evening program (game) will take place from 6-8pm on the beach - RAIN or SHINE. --Sun sponsored attendees will be picked up from airport by car service. If flights get delayed, the car service will adjust automatically. It's gonna be a blast! From stevel at opensolaris.org Tue Apr 29 08:53:25 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:53:25 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> Message-ID: <48174475.5010406@opensolaris.org> You can put my rescue # if you want: 415 237 0184 It'll ring Jesse, Simon, Plocher, and myself. cheers, steve Jesse Silver wrote: > Please review for 8am meeting. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 08:57:48 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:57:48 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <48174475.5010406@opensolaris.org> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> <48174475.5010406@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <4817457C.9040705@sun.com> Awesome. Thanks Steve, Simon, John. Stephen Lau wrote: > You can put my rescue # if you want: 415 237 0184 > It'll ring Jesse, Simon, Plocher, and myself. > > cheers, > steve > > Jesse Silver wrote: > >> Please review for 8am meeting. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-summit mailing list >> opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.tribble at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 09:00:00 2008 From: peter.tribble at gmail.com (Peter Tribble) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:00:00 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Jesse Silver wrote: > Please review for 8am meeting. A clarification - on Saturday, the bus goes straight from UCSC to the evening event without stopping back at the Hilton? Might be worth making that explicit so that people know to bring their warm clothing out with them in the morning. -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ From Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Tue Apr 29 09:01:15 2008 From: Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:01:15 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> Message-ID: <4817464b.PToIkLkHbm9bLejK%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Jesse Silver wrote: > Please review for 8am meeting. Everything looks nice, but please add centigrade numbers for us from the rest of the world ;-) J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 09:02:55 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:02:55 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> Message-ID: <481746AF.7070001@sun.com> Oooo. Darn good point. I'll add that. To clarify to everyone - bring your jacket in the morning! It will be cold then too, and you'll need it at night. Peter Tribble wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Jesse Silver wrote: > >> Please review for 8am meeting. >> > > A clarification - on Saturday, the bus goes straight from UCSC to the > evening event without stopping back at the Hilton? Might be worth making > that explicit so that people know to bring their warm clothing out with > them in the morning. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Marty.Duey at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 09:38:11 2008 From: Marty.Duey at Sun.COM (Marty Duey) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:38:11 -0600 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Last Call: Ride Share Offer from SJ Area Message-ID: <48174EF3.8030001@sun.com> Hello, This is a last call for anyone who needs a ride from the San Jose area to the Summit on Friday. I arrive SJC around 2p PT and would be happy to give two or three people a lift from the general area to the Summit. One caveat; I have to leave the Summit Sunday afternoon so anyone getting a ride with me will have to find alternate transport back (e.g., the Party Bus). Regards, Marty -- _/_/_/ Marty Duey _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Partner Development Manager _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ Partner Marketing _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Email: marty.duey at sun.com _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Direct: 303.223.6141 Internal: x69342 M I C R O S Y S T E M S From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 10:42:15 2008 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:42:15 -0500 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <481746AF.7070001@sun.com> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> <481746AF.7070001@sun.com> Message-ID: <48175DF7.3040709@sun.com> Just to be a pain in the ass... Does this mean we are all carrying laptop bags around with us all night? Is there somewhere we can lock them up? Sara Jesse Silver wrote: > Oooo. Darn good point. I'll add that. > > To clarify to everyone - bring your jacket in the morning! It will be > cold then too, and you'll need it at night. > > Peter Tribble wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Jesse Silver wrote: >> >>> Please review for 8am meeting. >>> >> >> A clarification - on Saturday, the bus goes straight from UCSC to the >> evening event without stopping back at the Hilton? Might be worth making >> that explicit so that people know to bring their warm clothing out with >> them in the morning. >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From webmink at sun.com Tue Apr 29 13:11:08 2008 From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:11:08 +0100 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <48174475.5010406@opensolaris.org> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> <48174475.5010406@opensolaris.org> Message-ID: <47667CA2-16BD-4F5B-A9E6-3A604B98B42F@sun.com> There's still scope for two more people to join the "emergency helper" phone chain. You need to have a car, know the area and have a US cellphone number. If you want to volunteer, let Stephen know. S. On Apr 29, 2008, at 16:53, Stephen Lau wrote: > You can put my rescue # if you want: 415 237 0184 > It'll ring Jesse, Simon, Plocher, and myself. > > cheers, > steve From stevel at opensolaris.org Tue Apr 29 13:48:27 2008 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:48:27 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] draft summit guide In-Reply-To: <47667CA2-16BD-4F5B-A9E6-3A604B98B42F@sun.com> References: <48173338.8010900@sun.com> <48174475.5010406@opensolaris.org> <47667CA2-16BD-4F5B-A9E6-3A604B98B42F@sun.com> Message-ID: <4817899B.2050606@opensolaris.org> One more, Stuart Kreitman just volunteered. Simon Phipps wrote: > There's still scope for two more people to join the "emergency helper" > phone chain. You need to have a car, know the area and have a US > cellphone number. If you want to volunteer, let Stephen know. > > S. > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 16:53, Stephen Lau wrote: > > >> You can put my rescue # if you want: 415 237 0184 >> It'll ring Jesse, Simon, Plocher, and myself. >> >> cheers, >> steve >> > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 17:31:04 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:31:04 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] ANNOUNCING: Summit Guide and Maps Message-ID: <4817BDC8.6060405@sun.com> Announcing the Official OpenSolaris Developer Summit May 2008 Guide: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/summit/summit_guide_2008.pdf If you are driving yourself to UCSC, this map directs you to the correct parking structure: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/summit/cd_corewest.pdf Finally, a complete map of UCSC (for you adventuresome few): http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/summit/campusmapbw.pdf See you this weekend! From Erwann.Chenede at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 18:51:03 2008 From: Erwann.Chenede at Sun.COM (Erwann Chenede) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:51:03 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/29, 8am In-Reply-To: <4817441B.1080802@sun.com> References: <4817441B.1080802@sun.com> Message-ID: <4817D087.7070707@sun.com> [resending as the previous email got stuck in the moderation queue] Hi Jesse, Jesse Silver wrote: > Meeting- > > Thorsten Frueauf > Tim Cramer > Jeff Cheeney > Joerg Schilling > Dave Stewart > Jesse Silver > Chris Baker > Jim Walker > Sara Dornsife > > Schedule: > > Looks good, but need leader for Desktop Tech session. Stewart suggests > we find non-Sun leader. Jesse will investigate. > There will be a few people from the Sun Desktop team attending (including me!) this session. So if need be we can lead this discussion. Either way we already got a good few topics to discuss :) Cheers, Erwann > Updates: > > --We are videotaping everything! > > --Friday reception includes dinner, will be out from 8pm to midnight. > Everyone will get drink tickets. > > --Saturday night will be warm during the day, but cold at night. Our > Saturday evening program (game) will take place from 6-8pm on the beach > - RAIN or SHINE. > > --Sun sponsored attendees will be picked up from airport by car service. > If flights get delayed, the car service will adjust automatically. > > It's gonna be a blast! > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -- Erwann Ch?ned?, Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble Phone : +33 476 188 358 ext: 38358 From Erwann.Chenede at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 18:40:35 2008 From: Erwann.Chenede at Sun.COM (Erwann Chenede) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:40:35 +0200 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] Meeting Notes, 4/29, 8am In-Reply-To: <4817441B.1080802@sun.com> References: <4817441B.1080802@sun.com> Message-ID: <4817CE13.9030807@sun.com> Hi Jesse, Jesse Silver wrote: > Meeting- > > Thorsten Frueauf > Tim Cramer > Jeff Cheeney > Joerg Schilling > Dave Stewart > Jesse Silver > Chris Baker > Jim Walker > Sara Dornsife > > Schedule: > > Looks good, but need leader for Desktop Tech session. Stewart suggests > we find non-Sun leader. Jesse will investigate. > There will be a few people from the Sun Desktop team attending (including me!) this session. So if need be we can lead this discussion. Either way we already got a good few topics to discuss :) Cheers, Erwann > Updates: > > --We are videotaping everything! > > --Friday reception includes dinner, will be out from 8pm to midnight. > Everyone will get drink tickets. > > --Saturday night will be warm during the day, but cold at night. Our > Saturday evening program (game) will take place from 6-8pm on the beach > - RAIN or SHINE. > > --Sun sponsored attendees will be picked up from airport by car service. > If flights get delayed, the car service will adjust automatically. > > It's gonna be a blast! > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-summit mailing list > opensolaris-summit at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-summit > -- Erwann Ch?ned?, Desktop Group, Sun Microsystems, Grenoble From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Tue Apr 29 23:59:16 2008 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:59:16 +0900 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] ANNOUNCING: Summit Guide and Maps In-Reply-To: <4817BDC8.6060405@sun.com> References: <4817BDC8.6060405@sun.com> Message-ID: <481818C4.4020601@sun.com> Jesse Silver wrote: > Announcing the Official OpenSolaris Developer Summit May 2008 Guide: > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/summit/summit_guide_2008.pdf > hey ... the graphic at the top of this doc ... anyone have it in a jpg? We should put it in our blogs. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM Wed Apr 30 03:00:14 2008 From: Jesse.Silver at Sun.COM (Jesse Silver) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:00:14 -0700 Subject: [opensolaris-summit] ANNOUNCING: Summit Guide and Maps In-Reply-To: <481818C4.4020601@sun.com> References: <4817BDC8.6060405@sun.com> <481818C4.4020601@sun.com> Message-ID: <4818432E.9000900@sun.com> You got it. It's attached. Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Jesse Silver wrote: > >> Announcing the Official OpenSolaris Developer Summit May 2008 Guide: >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/summit/summit_guide_2008.pdf >> >> > > hey ... the graphic at the top of this doc ... anyone have it in a jpg? > We should put it in our blogs. > > Jim > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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