[osdevcon-discuss] osdevcon mailinglists not listed at discussions page

[Martin Man]

Hi Eric,

Eric Boutilier wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Martin Man wrote:
>> Hi Website,
>>
>> We recently noticed that our osdevcon-announce[1] and
>> osdevcon-discuss[2] mailinglists are not listed under the OpenSolaris
>> Discussion page[3].
>>
>> Can anybody make the change for us and publish them there?
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> The contents of the os/discussons is a Jive thing and is auto-generated
> (not hand-editable), and it only puts Jive forums there.

understand...

> So in order to be comprehensive, a while back, we changed the main left
> sidebar link called "Discussions"  to "Jive Forums", and above that
> created an additional link called "Mail Lists". The latter is
> all-inclusive (and thereford includes the OSDevCon lists), the former
> is a subset.

To be frank I really haven't looked at the left menu, and I strongly 
believe that although this probably works it's not optimal at all. I 
thought either all mailing lists should have a forum, or none of them 
should have a forum, or at least forums should not have the same names 
as the mailing lists. This is just confusing even to geeks like me (the 
geeks who understands what's underneath) and I can't imagine how 
confusing it must be for plain users. Think Usable(tm).

> Hope that's OK. I.e. also see:
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/website-discuss/2007-August/003779.html

based on that mail I don't see a point why to keep the jive forums 
around. It seems that:

1) none wants to maintain/improve them
2) they are not there for all lists and probably never will
3) postings from the forum regularly break the email threads

do we at least know the numbers of posters per month that use forums 
instead of mailing lists so that we have some numbers at hand for 
keeping them alive?

> Eric

thanx for your explanation, looking forward for your opinions,
Martin

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