[osdevcon-discuss] osdevcon questions

[max at bruningsystems.com]

Hi Dirk,

I am thinking about doing a tutorial with zfs via zdb and mdb.   I would 
like to know what kind of setup
there is for doing tutorials.  Are there machines to use (with zfs)?  To 
do the tutorial I am thinking about, one
would also need my version of mdb that allows one to use ::print (and 
some other stuff) with raw files, and
the version of zdb I have that does decompression before dumping out 
blocks.  Maybe a tutorial would work better than a
presentation.  I am not sure I can show everything that needs to be 
shown in 40 minutes.  Regardless, I'll try a
"dry run" with one of my classes over the next couple of weeks.
I have a few more comments embedded below...

Dirk Wetter wrote:
>
> Hallo Max,
>
> Am 04.03.2008 18:44, max at bruningsystems.com schrieb:
>> Vielen Dank, Dirk.
>>
>> Jetzt, einpaar mehr frage.
>>
>> Is there any size limitation on the length of a paper being 
>> presented?  I have currently 29 pages, and may have 30 or so more
>> by the time I am finished.
>
> That's indeed a lot. :-8 The minimum GUUG at their conferences recommends
> is 8. For a conference next week I submitted 15 and are definelty
> above average.
Yes.  If the average is 2-3 minutes per page, 15 pages is probably all 
one has time for in a 40 minute slot.
>
> If you talking about sixty pages I would rather thinking about writing a
> book, for your own sake.
Hmmm.  I think if I wrote a book on administering ZFS, there would be an 
audience.  I'm not sure there
is a large audience that wants to know how ZFS works on disk...
>
>> Since the paper will be "presented" (assuming it is accepted), I 
>> guess I'll also need some
>> slides for presentation?  
>
> of course!
>
>> (Actually, when I look at what was done last year, it looks like 
>> everyone had slides.  Does this
>> mean no one submitted a paper?).
>
> nope, see here:
> http://www.guug.de/veranstaltungen/osdevcon2007/further_readings.html
So, there is no problem with submitting a paper and slides or tutorial, 
but no one submitted a paper before.
I guess I don't go to many conferences...  I thought a "call for papers" 
was, well... a call for papers.  Slides are
nice, but often don't give enough information...
>
> It's still under discussion whether the papers will be purely
> digital or printed. (I prefer the latter one, it gives people
> something into their hands and it fits better into the context.)
Why not both?
>
>> Is there any format that I should be using for the paper?  Right now 
>> I am just typing everything in as plain text
>> and plan to move it to star office to make it look "nice" before 
>> submitting it.
>
> You should do that immediately, it saves work later on.
> We intend to publish style templates soon for both TeX and OpenOffice.
> (@Wolfgang: can we fix the ones we have?)
I'm waiting...
>
>> Oder, soll wir sprechen in Deutsch?  Ich denke gibt's nur dich und 
>> mich an diese mailing list...  Ich kann immer
>> mehr uben benutzen.
>
> There are definitely more people on the list but as in life not 
> everybody speaks up :-) (People here should take that as an 
> encouragement not the opposite thing :-)).
YES!  And Sean Sprague spoke up, but I did not see his original posting, 
only your reply(???).

thanks,
max