[ug-bosug] Some thoughts on Simon Phipps defense against Novell

Manish Chakravarty manishchaks at gmail.com
Sun Apr 13 03:15:05 PDT 2008




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[mailto:ug-bosug-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Sriram Narayanan
Sent: 13 April 2008 15:28
To: Bangalore OpenSolaris User Group
Subject: Re: [ug-bosug] Some thoughts on Simon Phipps defense against Novell

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com> wrote:
>
> Sriram Narayanan wrote:
>  > Hi:
>  >
>  > http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/osb/?p=357
>  >
>  > Just a nit pick: Simon says that "We ship a completely free piece of
>  > software that anyone can download and use without any restrictions.".
>  > I think that SXDE/SXDE/Solaris is free for download and use, but that
>  > depending upon which particular download one takes, all the source and
>  > the distro assembling code and resources may not be free or even
>  > available.
>  >
>  > Such source and resources would include: the encumbered bits, the
>  > logo, and other such minor things.
>  >
>  > I think Indiana is a good step toward ensuring that everything is
>  > free, and that Belenix/Schillix/Nexenta are a good step toward showing
>  > that Sun in open to others putting together distros based on the
>  > opensolaris code base.
>  >
>  > >From a technology perspective, I'd consider all of this to be
>  > completed FOSS only if the tool chain to build and assemble all this
>  > together is itself FOSS. So until Sun Studio is FOSS and/or gcc based
>  > Belenix is a reality, I'd say that the opensolaris ecosystem is not
>  > strictly FOSS itself.
>  >
>
>    See these threads:
>
>    http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=195526&#195526
>    http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=195042#195042
>
>    From this I'd guess that SUN Studio is slowly making progress through
an
>    excruciating legal process - just a guess I do not have insider
>  information :)
>    It takes time to free up large proprietary codebases.

> Plus, Vijat Tatkar had told me at the Sun Tech Days that the Studio
> team needs to work a lot on functionality, and the open sourcing
> process is long and tedious.

It would be safe to assume that there would be no open source version of
Studio in the near future.

-- Manish



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