[ug-bosug] [ug-posug] Fwd: OpenSolaris.org: Do we build a distro? Let your voice be heard. (Today by noon) OGB concall info enclosed.

[Moinak Ghosh]

Brandorr wrote:
> [...]
> Actually according to the Indiana team, it is. (Who apparently now
> have the power to control our website infrastructure and our
> community's name).
>
> For those who weren't at the First OpenSolaris developer summit, the
> same group who proposed that Indiana get to exclusively wear the name
> "OpenSolaris" in the singular, also stated that only distros assembled
> with Indiana binaries that were compiled by Sun, and installed using
> the Indiana packaging system (IPS) will be allowed to use the
> OpenSolaris trademark in any form.
>
> This policy explicitly banned any other use of the Trademark, so the
> statement, "Shillix is an OpenSolaris distro" would no longer be
> considered a legal statement. (Assuming the Shilix team decides to
> continue using System V packages, and/or continues to do compile it's
> own distro).
>   

   This is surprising to me.
   IMHO it is not entirely practical to assume that significant distros 
can be
   created based off a binary repository of another distro. Any distro worth
   it's meat ultimately needs to build from source.

> The current OpenSolaris distros, will not even have a common
> identifier to use to mark them as OpenSolaris distros. (I'll tell you
> both Joerg and Martin, who created the first two OpenSolaris distros
> are very upset about this).
>
> And to top it all off, Roy T. Fielding, just resigned. For those that
> don't know Roy, he was initially brought in to help Sun create an
> independent open source project called OpenSolaris. Here is an article
> summarizing Roy's resignation, and what lead up to it:
> http://www.michaeldolan.com/1102
>
> About Roy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Fielding (Roy wrote the
> initial paper on REST techniques, and was an original developer of
> Apache and  cofounder of one of the most succesful self-governed open
> source projects on the planet, The Apache Software Foundation.)
>
> It's not too late for Sun to change it's mind.
>   

   In the end the source is out there. There is just a need for other 
distros
   evolving to have significant impact/value in the market which can in turn
   have effects on how official things are done. There is nothing stopping
   technical progress from brilliant minds in the community - from this
   perspective the trademark issue is not significant. If you can't 
state things
   explicitly you imply, but there is no reason to stop innovating.

Regards,
Moinak.

> Cheers,
> Brian
>
> P.S. -  I also find it ironic that the only OpenSolaris distro that
> will be able to call itself OpenSolaris, will be the only distro that
> isn't fully open source.
>
>   
>>  Regards,
>>  Moinak.
>>
>>
>>
>>  > cheers
>>  > Shiv
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