[ug-bosug] Would I consider Belenix as my primary desktop OS ?
Moinak Ghosh
Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com
Sat Apr 22 02:01:07 PDT 2006
Sriram Narayanan wrote:
> On 4/22/06, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Amazing ... you are up till 1:30AM with BeleniX!
>>
>
> Yes. Belenix holds so much promise, and seems to be "almost there". I
> inted to work woti you guys to help get it become more usable than it
> already it.
>
> I've signed up at Sarovar and have filed bugs and feature requests for
> 0.4.2 for XFCE. I'll take up KDE today, and command line utilities
> tomorrow.
>
Thanks.
>> [...]
>> However it will create another tree under /opt/csw and tends to pull
>> a lot of
>> dependencies which will result in some duplication of software that
>> is already available
>> under /usr/foss.
>>
>
> Ack. So that means Blastwave has a different package management scheme
> as compared to what Belenix/Solaris has. Reminds me of the rpm/deb
> scenario from the Linux world :)
>
Not really. It is a layer on top of Solaris packaging. pkg-get is
essentially a shell script
that does the automatic package download, digital signature
verification, dependency
resolution etc. The packages are still Solaris packages and installed
using pkgadd.
The only trouble with Blastwave is that the dependencies are quite
exhaustive and all
dependencies are mandatory. In addition there is no mechanism to look
at already existing
software installed elsewhere on the system. So it results in a big
number of packages being
downloaded and lots of software being duplicated. Thus for eg. I
needed Mplayer and
executed "pkg-get -i mplayer". This resulted in OpenLDAP and GCC3
being downloaded
and installed as part of the dependency tree resolution!
Regards,
Moinak.
>
>> It'd be nice to have wine built for BeleniX and
>> installed under /usr/foss
>>
>
> Hmm.. What'd be the effort of getting Wine to build on Belenix ? Never
> mind, let me figure that out myself :)
>
>
>>> 2. The latest Open Office should run.
>>> I don't mind downloading this myself.
>>>
>>>
>> Yes it will run once you complete step 1 described in:
>>
>> http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Belenix_FAQ#How_do_I_manage_packages_on_BeleniX_.3F_Does_the_existing_software_have_packaging_info_.3F
>>
>>
> Ack. Thanks.
>
>
>> Hopefully this won't be necessary with 0.4.3 as the SUN Studio C++
>> runtime will be re-licensed as redistributables by next week. In the
>> meantime the SUN Studio team is also working on open-sourcing
>> the libraries.
>>
>>
>
> This is interesting news. I hope Belenix/Open Solaris will eventually
> have every artifact under a CDDL or other OSI approved license.
>
>
>>> 4. GUI Tools/Utilities for
>>> - Managing and mounting filesystems
>>> - Configuring security (e.g. something like iptables if it exists for Solaris)
>>>
>>>
>> ipfilter:
>>
>>
>> http://partneradvantage.sun.com/protected/solaris10/adoptionkit/general/features/ip_filter.html
>>
>
> Ack.
>
>
>>> 5. Eclipse GTK (or Eclipse SWTFOX if it is ready earlier) should run
>>> without problems.
>>> As a Java developer and eclipse enthusiast, I'd love to work on this.
>>>
>>>
>> Eclipse is being ported to Solaris x86 folks have it running already.
>> See the other
>> related email from Venky in this alias.
>>
>
> Yes. I'm aware of that thread, and had participated on it with Venky
> yesterday. I've also added myself to the Bug report at eclipse.org,
> and intend to volunteer for the porting effort. From what I undestand,
> it's more a matter of getting the build files right, and adding
> support for Solaris/x86 without breaking existing support for
> Solaris/SPARC. There are already some build scripts as well as
> instructions from different individuals who've worked against various
> Eclipse releases.
>
> Moinak, it's been a pleasure working with Belenix so far. I've
> showcased this to my colleagues and my biggest emphasis is the fact
> that we get the proven Solaris kernel underneath the familiar bash
> prompt/KDE/XFCE environment.
>
> Thanks for doing such a good job.
>
> -- Sriram
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