From Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com Thu Jan 5 11:40:57 2006 From: Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com (Alan DuBoff) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:40:57 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Did you loose an electronic device at SVOSUG? Message-ID: <200601051140.57994.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> We have a small electronic device (which I won't describe;-) which seems to have been left in the upstairs meeting room at the Santa Clara conference center. If you lost a small electronic device, please describe it to me and I'll get you in touch with the folks who can get it back to you. -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 Engineering From Lisa.Week at Sun.COM Sat Jan 7 00:11:26 2006 From: Lisa.Week at Sun.COM (Lisa Week) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 01:11:26 -0700 Subject: [ug-discuss] Next FROSUG Meeting: 1/19/2006 Message-ID: <43BF77AE.6080403@Sun.COM> Hi, We hope you all had a Happy New Year and are ready for the next FROSUG meeting! We are excited to announce that this month's meeting will be featuring a presentation on ZFS! In addition to that, we are working on getting a group of individuals from CU Denver to come talk to us about a project they have been working on using OpenSolaris titled Grids on Solaris Zones. Here are the details about the meeting: Where: Sun Broomfield campus, Conference Center #1 & #2 / Bldg #1 Address: 500 Eldorado Blvd. Broomfield, CO 80021 Agenda: 5:00pm - 6:00pm: Grids on Solaris Zones (Note: Just to let you all know, we are still in the process of getting the Grids on Solaris Zones presentation setup. If there are any changes, we'll notify you via email prior to the meeting.) 6:15pm - 6:30pm: Let's eat! We'll be ordering pizza so come hungry! 6:30pm - 8:30pm: ZFS RSVP by sending your first and last name to frosug-rsvp(AT)opensolaris(DOT)org by January 18th. This will help us know how much food to get and allow us to make badges in advance. We realize that not everyone will be able to get here at 5:00pm so feel free to come whenever you can. Just so no one misses anything, we won't start the ZFS presentation any earlier than 6:30pm! Before we close, here are some details about ZFS and our presenter: Our presenter is Mark Maybee, a Solaris engineer who has spent the last five years working on ZFS. So, whether or not you have heard about ZFS, this will be a great opportunity to learn what it is all about. >From the ZFS community page, ZFS is a new kind of filesystem that provides simple administration, transactional semantics, end-to-end data integrity, and immense scalability. ZFS is not an incremental improvement to existing technology; it is a fundamentally new approach to data management. ZFS Features * Pooled Storage Model * Always consistent on disk * Protection from data corruption * Live data scrubbing * Instantaneous snapshots and clones * Fast native backup and restore * Highly scalable * Built in compression * Simplified administration model For more information check out the ZFS OpenSolaris community page: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/ Thanks and hope to see you there! FROSUG From Alan.Hargreaves at Sun.COM Mon Jan 9 05:43:05 2006 From: Alan.Hargreaves at Sun.COM (Alan Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:43:05 +1100 Subject: [ug-discuss] The fifth meeting of the Sydney Open Solaris User Group Message-ID: <43C26869.2070102@Sun.COM> Date: Wednesday, January 25 Time: 6:30pm Location: Sun Solution (formally iForce) Centre. Ground floor 33 Berry St, North Sydney See http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/sosug for a link to a map. Speakers -------- James McPherson James will be speaking on "Getting to know the SAN stack". Sun's SAN Foundation Kit (SFK) is presented, from the hardware (hba) up to the application level (userland). We demonstrate the way your data gets to and from your storage, and present basic SFK debugging techniques using code from the OpenNWS consolidation that will soon be hosted at www.opensolaris.org. James is a developer with the Data Management Group and and has been with Sun for just over six years. Brendan Gregg Brendan will be speaking on "Zone Resource Controls". Zones are great for server consolidation. Picture migrating ten application servers onto one. Now picture application wars, where they wrestle for resources with survival of the fattest. There are several resource control techniques that not only allow applications to coexist peacefully, but allow you control how they use resources. I'll summarise how Zone Resource Controls currently work. When Brendan is not teaching Solaris topics, he spends time playing with DTrace and the DTrace toolkit. Alan Hargreaves If time permits Alan will speak briefly about "Progress on the Non-debug build front". Since we released the code, it's only been possible to build a debug version of OpenSolaris. Well, that's not quite true. There is a way to build a mostly non-debug version using binaries that are already available. I'll also touch on progress being made towards making a set of closed non-debug binaries available more formally. Alan is a staff engineer for the kernel group in Product Technical Support. Notes ----- * The security and safety folks have asked me to ensure that people visiting the iForce Centre sign in when they arrive and sign out when they leave. This is a safety issue so we know who is in the building. The sign in book is at the front desk inside the glass doors. * The main doors lock at about 6:00pm, so we'll make sure that we have someone near them to allow entry to the building. -- Alan Hargreaves - http://blogs.sun.com/tpenta Kernel/VOSJEC/Performance Staff Engineer Product Technical Support (APAC) Sun Microsystems From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Tue Jan 10 10:16:39 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:16:39 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: [osol-mktg] BayLISA Presentation Report In-Reply-To: <43A34C0C.6080007@cuddletech.com> References: <43A34C0C.6080007@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <43C3FA07.50806@sun.com> Very nice, Ben. I see Simon's blog has a link to the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2137587736484753992 It will make a nice addition to the user group presentation page. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ Ben Rockwood wrote: > I presented on Solaris/OpenSolaris last night at BayLISA (baylisa.org). > It was the annual "Short but Cool" evening, where a variety of > presenters are present and each get about 20 minutes to speak. We ended > up having 6 preso's ranging from 'DragonFly BSD MP kernel mechanisms' > which was highly technical to 'Novell and Linux' which was pure marketing. > Given the audience and time time span I was really constricted on what I > could get into, so I opted to do a presentation entitled "New Directions > of Solaris in an Open World". I highlighted features in Solaris10, a > brief history of Tonic/OpenSolaris, highlighted features of OpenSolaris, > and then tried to demystify all the various ways to get Solaris > (Solaris, SX, SX:CR, OpenSolaris Source, OpenSolaris BFU's, Distros) and > pointed to resources. There was a liberal amount of segue in the course > of it. > > The presentation flew by. The 25 minutes that I was up felt more like > 10 and we covered very little ground but always stayed focused on the > audience, System Administrators, and the deep level of community > involvement that we have, including the fact that I, their humble > presenter, was a community member, not an employee of Sun. They really > seemed to respond well to the talk. The message I got was that most of > them were jaded by the Sun marketing speak and didn't want to hear it > and really opened up to everything I had to present with an open mind. > I even made sure to remind them that they all, as Sun users and > customers, were members of this community as well, whether they > participate or not is their choice. > > Because of my time constraints and because I don't have a laptop I used > my wifes Apple PowerBook and did the slides in Apple KeyNote. Since the > meeting was at Apple I thought that was probably OK. I'll redo the > slides in OO and put them up for those interested. > > I've been asked to come back some time later in the year and give a full > 2+ hour presentation. When I do that presentation I'll be doing a very > targeted "OpenSolaris for System Administrators" where I put focus on > topics that are of direct interest to all sysadmins regardless of skill > level, such as SMF, Zones, and ZFS, and try to focus a little less on > DTrace which goes over the heads of some sysadmins. > > Thank you very much to Teresa for providing me with a swag kit. I was > the only presenter with swag, and the audience loved it. I gave out S10 > DVD's (6) to the few people in the room that hadn't used S10 before and > gave out shirts (2) and hats (2) to the most worthy souls. > > The crowd was good, I'd assume we had about 50'ish people present. All > the seats were full and several people standing. From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM Tue Jan 10 21:14:29 2006 From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:14:29 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: [osol-mktg] BayLISA Presentation Report In-Reply-To: <43C3FA07.50806@sun.com> References: <43A34C0C.6080007@cuddletech.com> <43C3FA07.50806@sun.com> Message-ID: <1136956469.101054.13.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 10:16 -0800, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Very nice, Ben. I see Simon's blog has a link to the video: > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2137587736484753992 > It will make a nice addition to the user group presentation page. Uh, right - is this where I step in ? Sorry - I've been in wall to wall meetings for the last few days here in MPK (and a fairly considerable amount of lunches, it has to be said!) and I haven't been able to keep up with emails... Anyway a link to that video is up on the preso page now at http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/os-presentations/ Thanks for the heads-up Jim! cheers, tim > Jim > -- > Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > > I presented on Solaris/OpenSolaris last night at BayLISA (baylisa.org). > > It was the annual "Short but Cool" evening, where a variety of > > presenters are present and each get about 20 minutes to speak. We ended > > up having 6 preso's ranging from 'DragonFly BSD MP kernel mechanisms' > > which was highly technical to 'Novell and Linux' which was pure marketing. > > Given the audience and time time span I was really constricted on what I > > could get into, so I opted to do a presentation entitled "New Directions > > of Solaris in an Open World". I highlighted features in Solaris10, a > > brief history of Tonic/OpenSolaris, highlighted features of OpenSolaris, > > and then tried to demystify all the various ways to get Solaris > > (Solaris, SX, SX:CR, OpenSolaris Source, OpenSolaris BFU's, Distros) and > > pointed to resources. There was a liberal amount of segue in the course > > of it. > > > > The presentation flew by. The 25 minutes that I was up felt more like > > 10 and we covered very little ground but always stayed focused on the > > audience, System Administrators, and the deep level of community > > involvement that we have, including the fact that I, their humble > > presenter, was a community member, not an employee of Sun. They really > > seemed to respond well to the talk. The message I got was that most of > > them were jaded by the Sun marketing speak and didn't want to hear it > > and really opened up to everything I had to present with an open mind. > > I even made sure to remind them that they all, as Sun users and > > customers, were members of this community as well, whether they > > participate or not is their choice. > > > > Because of my time constraints and because I don't have a laptop I used > > my wifes Apple PowerBook and did the slides in Apple KeyNote. Since the > > meeting was at Apple I thought that was probably OK. I'll redo the > > slides in OO and put them up for those interested. > > > > I've been asked to come back some time later in the year and give a full > > 2+ hour presentation. When I do that presentation I'll be doing a very > > targeted "OpenSolaris for System Administrators" where I put focus on > > topics that are of direct interest to all sysadmins regardless of skill > > level, such as SMF, Zones, and ZFS, and try to focus a little less on > > DTrace which goes over the heads of some sysadmins. > > > > Thank you very much to Teresa for providing me with a swag kit. I was > > the only presenter with swag, and the audience loved it. I gave out S10 > > DVD's (6) to the few people in the room that hadn't used S10 before and > > gave out shirts (2) and hats (2) to the most worthy souls. > > > > The crowd was good, I'd assume we had about 50'ish people present. All > > the seats were full and several people standing. > > _______________________________________________ > ug-discuss mailing list > ug-discuss at opensolaris.org -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM Tue Jan 10 21:40:32 2006 From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:40:32 -0800 Subject: (additional) Re: [ug-discuss] Re: [osol-mktg] BayLISA Presentation Report In-Reply-To: <1136956469.101054.13.camel@localhost> References: <43A34C0C.6080007@cuddletech.com> <43C3FA07.50806@sun.com> <1136956469.101054.13.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1136958032.101054.27.camel@localhost> Oh, hey - meant to mention : that's really nice presentation Ben! (well worth watching for everyone else - I'm sold too :-) [ note to self - must spend time extracting the audio of some of the videos we've got to mp3 so people could listen to them on their iPods - would that be useful, or am I the only one looking for that sort of thing ? ] On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 21:14 -0800, Tim Foster wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 10:16 -0800, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > Very nice, Ben. I see Simon's blog has a link to the video: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2137587736484753992 > > It will make a nice addition to the user group presentation page. > > Uh, right - is this where I step in ? Sorry - I've been in wall to wall > meetings for the last few days here in MPK (and a fairly considerable > amount of lunches, it has to be said!) and I haven't been able to keep > up with emails... Anyway a link to that video is up on the preso page > now at > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/os-presentations/ > > Thanks for the heads-up Jim! > > cheers, > tim > > > > Jim > > -- > > Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris > > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ > > > > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > > > I presented on Solaris/OpenSolaris last night at BayLISA (baylisa.org). > > > It was the annual "Short but Cool" evening, where a variety of > > > presenters are present and each get about 20 minutes to speak. We ended > > > up having 6 preso's ranging from 'DragonFly BSD MP kernel mechanisms' > > > which was highly technical to 'Novell and Linux' which was pure marketing. > > > Given the audience and time time span I was really constricted on what I > > > could get into, so I opted to do a presentation entitled "New Directions > > > of Solaris in an Open World". I highlighted features in Solaris10, a > > > brief history of Tonic/OpenSolaris, highlighted features of OpenSolaris, > > > and then tried to demystify all the various ways to get Solaris > > > (Solaris, SX, SX:CR, OpenSolaris Source, OpenSolaris BFU's, Distros) and > > > pointed to resources. There was a liberal amount of segue in the course > > > of it. > > > > > > The presentation flew by. The 25 minutes that I was up felt more like > > > 10 and we covered very little ground but always stayed focused on the > > > audience, System Administrators, and the deep level of community > > > involvement that we have, including the fact that I, their humble > > > presenter, was a community member, not an employee of Sun. They really > > > seemed to respond well to the talk. The message I got was that most of > > > them were jaded by the Sun marketing speak and didn't want to hear it > > > and really opened up to everything I had to present with an open mind. > > > I even made sure to remind them that they all, as Sun users and > > > customers, were members of this community as well, whether they > > > participate or not is their choice. > > > > > > Because of my time constraints and because I don't have a laptop I used > > > my wifes Apple PowerBook and did the slides in Apple KeyNote. Since the > > > meeting was at Apple I thought that was probably OK. I'll redo the > > > slides in OO and put them up for those interested. > > > > > > I've been asked to come back some time later in the year and give a full > > > 2+ hour presentation. When I do that presentation I'll be doing a very > > > targeted "OpenSolaris for System Administrators" where I put focus on > > > topics that are of direct interest to all sysadmins regardless of skill > > > level, such as SMF, Zones, and ZFS, and try to focus a little less on > > > DTrace which goes over the heads of some sysadmins. > > > > > > Thank you very much to Teresa for providing me with a swag kit. I was > > > the only presenter with swag, and the audience loved it. I gave out S10 > > > DVD's (6) to the few people in the room that hadn't used S10 before and > > > gave out shirts (2) and hats (2) to the most worthy souls. > > > > > > The crowd was good, I'd assume we had about 50'ish people present. All > > > the seats were full and several people standing. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ug-discuss mailing list > > ug-discuss at opensolaris.org -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From benr at cuddletech.com Wed Jan 11 00:03:17 2006 From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:03:17 -0800 Subject: (additional) Re: [ug-discuss] Re: [osol-mktg] BayLISA Presentation Report In-Reply-To: <1136958032.101054.27.camel@localhost> References: <43A34C0C.6080007@cuddletech.com> <43C3FA07.50806@sun.com> <1136956469.101054.13.camel@localhost> <1136958032.101054.27.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <43C4BBC5.70201@cuddletech.com> Tim Foster wrote: >Oh, hey - meant to mention : that's really nice presentation Ben! >(well worth watching for everyone else - I'm sold too :-) > >[ note to self - must spend time extracting the audio of some of the >videos we've got to mp3 so people could listen to them on their iPods - >would that be useful, or am I the only one looking for that sort of >thing ? ] > Its a good idea. In fact, I recently saw a nice "Must Have Accessory" for iPod that I might pick up for SVOSUG, its a little stereo mic to allow recording direct on the iPod. The audio quality at our meetings is so bad that I might start asking speakers to clip on the mic and put the iPod in their pockets so that I can get good quality audio for Podcasts in addition to the video we provide. benr. From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Wed Jan 11 09:57:09 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:57:09 -0800 Subject: (additional) Re: [ug-discuss] Re: [osol-mktg] BayLISA Presentation Report In-Reply-To: <1136958032.101054.27.camel@localhost> References: <43A34C0C.6080007@cuddletech.com> <43C3FA07.50806@sun.com> <1136956469.101054.13.camel@localhost> <1136958032.101054.27.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <43C546F5.80200@sun.com> Tim Foster wrote: > Oh, hey - meant to mention : that's really nice presentation Ben! > (well worth watching for everyone else - I'm sold too :-) +1 :) > [ note to self - must spend time extracting the audio of some of the > videos we've got to mp3 so people could listen to them on their iPods - > would that be useful, or am I the only one looking for that sort of > thing ? ] That would be great. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Seng-Quee.Liang at Sun.COM Tue Jan 17 09:54:00 2006 From: Seng-Quee.Liang at Sun.COM (Seng-Quee.Liang) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:54:00 +0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Presentations done at Singapore OpenSolaris Users Group Message-ID: <43CD2F38.1040000@Sun.COM> Hi, Several of us made these presentations at Singapore OpenSolaris Users Group. The topics, speakers, slides and dates are all listed here : http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/sgosug/ We would be please to share & list them in the "OpenSolaris Talks & Presentation" section on Opensolaris.org. Thanks & Best Regards, /SengQuee OpenSolaris.SG Community Lead From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM Tue Jan 17 13:34:33 2006 From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:34:33 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Presentations done at Singapore OpenSolaris Users Group In-Reply-To: <43CD2F38.1040000@Sun.COM> References: <43CD2F38.1040000@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <1137533673.1034.46.camel@localhost> Hi SengQuee, On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 01:54 +0800, Seng-Quee.Liang wrote: > Several of us made these presentations at Singapore OpenSolaris Users > Group. The topics, speakers, slides and dates are all listed here : > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/sgosug/ Great, thanks - I'll update the pages later today (probably when I get back to the hotel room here) Thanks for letting me know about these , there's, there's quite a few user-groups around, so keeping on top of this list has been an interesting task, and sorry for missing you guys out so far - it wasn't intentional ! ;-) > We would be please to share & list them in the "OpenSolaris Talks & > Presentation" section on Opensolaris.org. No problem - I'll have a look. Do you guys have blogs, audio or video links for those presentations as well ? cheers, tim -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Lisa.Week at Sun.COM Tue Jan 17 21:24:27 2006 From: Lisa.Week at Sun.COM (Lisa Week) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:24:27 -0700 Subject: [ug-discuss] Reminder and Time Change for 01/19/2006 FROSUG Meeting Message-ID: <43CDD10B.5010303@Sun.COM> *** Please notice that the start time of the 01/19/2006 meeting has changed from 5:00pm to 6:15pm. *** Hello, This message is to remind you of the upcoming Front Range OpenSolaris User Group (FROSUG) meeting and to notify you of a change in the start time from what was originally advertised. We will now start at 6:15pm rather than 5:00pm. Why? Due to conflicts with the presenters' schedules we will not be having the Grids on Solaris Zones presentation at this meeting. We hope to reschedule this for a future meeting. Here are the updated details (the only thing that has changed is the removal of the Grids on Solaris Zones presentation from the agenda): When: Thursday, January 19, 2006 Where: Sun Broomfield campus, Conference Center #1 & #2 / Bldg #1 Address: 500 Eldorado Blvd. Broomfield, CO 80021 Agenda: 6:15pm - 6:30pm: Let's eat! We'll be ordering pizza so come hungry! 6:30pm - 8:30pm: ZFS RSVP by sending your first and last name to frosug-rsvp(AT)opensolaris(DOT)org by January 18th. This will help us know how much food to get and allow us to make badges in advance. Details about our presenter: Our presenter is Mark Maybee, a Solaris engineer who has spent the last five years working on ZFS. So, whether or not you have heard about ZFS, this will be a great opportunity to learn what it is all about. >From the ZFS community page, ZFS is a new kind of filesystem that provides simple administration, transactional semantics, end-to-end data integrity, and immense scalability. ZFS is not an incremental improvement to existing technology; it is a fundamentally new approach to data management. ZFS Features * Pooled Storage Model * Always consistent on disk * Protection from data corruption * Live data scrubbing * Instantaneous snapshots and clones * Fast native backup and restore * Highly scalable * Built in compression * Simplified administration model For more information check out the ZFS OpenSolaris community page: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/ Thanks and hope to see you there! FROSUG From Seng-Quee.Liang at Sun.COM Tue Jan 17 23:35:46 2006 From: Seng-Quee.Liang at Sun.COM (Seng-Quee.Liang) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:35:46 +0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Presentations done at Singapore OpenSolaris Users Group In-Reply-To: <1137533673.1034.46.camel@localhost> References: <43CD2F38.1040000@Sun.COM> <1137533673.1034.46.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1137569745.954.343.camel@galactica> Hi Tim, On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 05:34, Tim Foster wrote: > Hi SengQuee, > > On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 01:54 +0800, Seng-Quee.Liang wrote: > > Several of us made these presentations at Singapore OpenSolaris Users > > Group. The topics, speakers, slides and dates are all listed here : > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/sgosug/ > > Great, thanks - I'll update the pages later today (probably when I get > back to the hotel room here) Thanks for letting me know about these , > there's, there's quite a few user-groups around, so keeping on top of > this list has been an interesting task, and sorry for missing you guys > out so far - it wasn't intentional ! ;-) No worries ... > > > > We would be please to share & list them in the "OpenSolaris Talks & > > Presentation" section on Opensolaris.org. > > No problem - I'll have a look. Do you guys have blogs, audio or video > links for those presentations as well ? I have uploaded all the presentations ... blogs is not much of an Asian culture, but I will check :-P ... we havent had the means to do audio or video yet. What was interesting to note was that the DTrace session was actually presented by a non-Sun person ... our very 1st non-Sun speaker ... and he did everything "live" on a OpenSolaris box, no guides, cheatsheets or slides :-P ... On hindsight, I wished I have video capability :-P Thanks. Best Regards, /SQ From Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com Fri Jan 20 01:23:29 2006 From: Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com (Alan DuBoff) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:23:29 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] January SVOSUG meeting - Thursday, Jan. 26 Message-ID: <200601200123.29135.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> Folks, it's a new year, new time slot. We're moving from Tuesday evenings to Thursday evenings as this makes it easier for the folks scheduling the room. Please make note, we will be on the 4th Thursday of the month, starting this months and continuing on forward. Thanks to all that showed up at the potlock last month, I think it was a good time for those that were in attendance, and the BrandZ demo was very interesting. This month we have one of the community members, Max Bruning to give a presentation on device drivers, how they work in Solaris, and some of the new APIs. It is my hopes that this will give folks an overview of device drivers for next month, when the SATA team will present on the SATA frameworks that are going back and will be available in Solaris, soon. Max teaches several courses at Sun University, but attends the SVOSUG and has been a part of our community for quite some time. Meeting will take place on Jan 26th, 2006, 7:30pm-10:00pm, upstairs room of SCA03, the auditorium at the Sun Santa Clara campus. Hope to see you there. When: Thursday, Jan. 26th, 2006 Where: Sun Santa Clara Campus, SCA03 What: Max Bruning presents an Overview of Device Drivers on Solaris map: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/resources/aland/scasj_dirmap.pdf -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 Engineering From Detlef.Drewanz at Sun.COM Fri Jan 20 13:11:08 2006 From: Detlef.Drewanz at Sun.COM (Detlef Drewanz) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:11:08 +0100 Subject: [ug-discuss] German OpenSolaris User Group (GOSUG) Meeting @ CeBIT2006 Message-ID: <43D151EC.6080402@sun.com> Ladies and Gentlemen, An OpenSolaris user group is forming in Germany. The purpose of the group is to bring together people who are interested in OpenSolaris and Solaris. Thanks to Nenad Cimerman to take responsibility for the gosug.de domain and our User Group webpage @ OpenSolaris.org. Join our mailing list by looking for "gosug" at the following website: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/discussions/ Please mark your calendars for the upcoming OpenSolaris User Group *kickoff meeting* in Hannover, Germany during CeBIT 2006 at the Sun booth. When: Sunday, March 12th, 2006 Presentations: 14:00 - 18:00 Community gathering: 18:00 - 20:00 Where: Germany, CeBIT Hannover, Sun booth Hall 1/A90+A91 Meet fellow OpenSolaris enthusiasts and specialists at the Sun booth. Ask questions, share knowledge and network with other OpenSolaris community members. And we'll have some food and beer to fuel the OpenSolaris Community spirit as well. If you would like to contribute by presenting on a specific OpenSolaris topic, please let us know. Send your OpenSolaris community talk proposals until February 17th, 2006 to cebit2006 at gosug.de, subject: [gosug-cebit] Watch the mailing-list or check out the user groups web page at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/gosug/. More details will be published there in the near future. Thanks and we hope to see you there! = GOSUG (German OpenSolaris User Group) = From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Jan 23 07:43:47 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:43:47 -0500 Subject: [ug-discuss] Put your location on Frapper Today! Message-ID: <43D4F9B3.9050202@sun.com> **Note: Cross posting to Opensolaris discuss alias...continue thread on ug-discuss at opensolaris.org please** Hi everyone: You see here a link to the FRAPPR site--we've got the basics of a WWOSUG map set up...would love everyone to go and add in their locations. It's possible the admin settings are messed up--anybody who can figure this out further--It would be GREAT. Since I started this based on Beta--we might have to scrap this and start over...not sure. http://www.frappr.com/opensolariswwosug# Check it out! And--if we'd like to start up a general OpenSolaris community membership map...that'd be great too. LKR From Dave.Marquardt at Sun.COM Mon Jan 23 08:38:39 2006 From: Dave.Marquardt at Sun.COM (Dave Marquardt) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:38:39 -0600 Subject: [ug-discuss] Put your location on Frapper Today! In-Reply-To: <43D4F9B3.9050202@sun.com> (Laura Ramsey's message of "Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:43:47 -0500") References: <43D4F9B3.9050202@sun.com> Message-ID: "Laura" == Laura Ramsey writes: Laura> http://www.frappr.com/opensolariswwosug# Laura> Check it out! So why does the NYC-OSUG show up in Santa Clara, CA? ;-) -- Dave Marquardt Sun Microsystems, Inc. Austin, TX +1 512 366-9085 From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Jan 23 08:55:52 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:55:52 -0500 Subject: [ug-discuss] Put your location on Frapper Today! In-Reply-To: References: <43D4F9B3.9050202@sun.com> Message-ID: <43D50A98.9000602@sun.com> Beta software, dude! I've lobbed 2 or 3 messages in to the contact support alias re: fixes not being saved. ;) LKR Dave Marquardt wrote: >"Laura" == Laura Ramsey writes: > >Laura> http://www.frappr.com/opensolariswwosug# > >Laura> Check it out! > >So why does the NYC-OSUG show up in Santa Clara, CA? ;-) > > From Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com Mon Jan 23 13:38:50 2006 From: Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com (Alan DuBoff) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:38:50 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] German OpenSolaris User Group (GOSUG) Meeting @ CeBIT2006 In-Reply-To: <43D151EC.6080402@sun.com> References: <43D151EC.6080402@sun.com> Message-ID: <200601231338.50326.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> On Friday 20 January 2006 01:11 pm, Detlef Drewanz wrote: > An OpenSolaris user group is forming in Germany. Excellent. Glad to see you starting a group there! Nice to see you involved, not that you ever weren't.;-) -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 Engineering From Alan.Hargreaves at Sun.COM Tue Jan 24 21:49:17 2006 From: Alan.Hargreaves at Sun.COM (Alan Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:49:17 +1100 Subject: [ug-discuss] [Tonight!] The fifth meeting of the Sydney Open Solaris User Group Message-ID: <43D7115D.7060905@Sun.COM> Date: Wednesday, January 25 Time: 6:30pm Location: Sun Solution (formally iForce) Centre. Ground floor 33 Berry St, North Sydney See http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/sosug for a link to a map. Speakers -------- James McPherson James will be speaking on "Getting to know the SAN stack". Sun's SAN Foundation Kit (SFK) is presented, from the hardware (hba) up to the application level (userland). We demonstrate the way your data gets to and from your storage, and present basic SFK debugging techniques using code from the OpenNWS consolidation that will soon be hosted at www.opensolaris.org. James is a developer with the Data Management Group and and has been with Sun for just over six years. Brendan Gregg Brendan will be speaking on "Zone Resource Controls". Zones are great for server consolidation. Picture migrating ten application servers onto one. Now picture application wars, where they wrestle for resources with survival of the fattest. There are several resource control techniques that not only allow applications to coexist peacefully, but allow you control how they use resources. I'll summarise how Zone Resource Controls currently work. When Brendan is not teaching Solaris topics, he spends time playing with DTrace and the DTrace toolkit. Alan Hargreaves If time permits Alan will speak briefly about "Progress on the Non-debug build front". Since we released the code, it's only been possible to build a debug version of OpenSolaris. Well, that's not quite true. There is a way to build a mostly non-debug version using binaries that are already available. I'll also touch on progress being made towards making a set of closed non-debug binaries available more formally. Alan is a staff engineer for the kernel group in Product Technical Support. Notes ----- * The security and safety folks have asked me to ensure that people visiting the iForce Centre sign in when they arrive and sign out when they leave. This is a safety issue so we know who is in the building. The sign in book is at the front desk inside the glass doors. * The main doors lock at about 6:00pm, so we'll make sure that we have someone near them to allow entry to the building. -- Alan Hargreaves - http://blogs.sun.com/tpenta Kernel/VOSJEC/Performance Staff Engineer Product Technical Support (APAC) Sun Microsystems From Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com Tue Jan 24 22:14:48 2006 From: Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com (Alan DuBoff) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:14:48 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Where do we go from here? In-Reply-To: <43D7115D.7060905@Sun.COM> References: <43D7115D.7060905@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <200601242214.48609.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> Re: [ug-discuss] [Tonight!] The fifth meeting of the Sydney Open Solaris User Group AlanH, First I would like to congratulate you for having your 5th meeting. It's a lot of work to keep a user group going, and your group seems to be doing well. I'm replying to ug-discuss. I had sent a message and Laura Ramsey had replied, but I was having problems which turned out that I wasn't subscribed to the list (why it was bouncing me). I should be on here now. I'd like to know who here has user groups, how they're doing in general, what folks have learned from them so far. I've created and run at least 4 or 5 groups in the past, one going back to the early 80s in Japan, which still to this day meets (they're having a tough time staying together though, as it was a pay-membership user group). I've ran user groups both Microsoft and IBM on different occasions, and now Sun. What I strive for now is a way to bring this same information, tutorials, and training material over the web through streaming media. I'd like to use the RealPlayer to deliver the content on the client side, since we now have a current RealPlayer. If possibly I'd like to keep all the formats open and free, so if we can use vorbis and/or ogg as the content, that would be nice also. This is one important thing I've learned over the years (and the HARD way;-), in that user groups should be free. Free software is not new, public domain software existed for years going back to the early days of the computer. OpenSource is a new label on top of it, and what has mainly changed is the infrastucture around us, mainly the internet. A user group is a place to socialize, a place to talk to live people, and a place to learn things. As a whole, it seems that all of our user groups can help contribute to this online cause, to get people from both the community and Sun to help with content. We can provide better content than just a local meeting, I believe as a whole we can all contribute and create an amazing resource of online information. Sorry for this long message, but I'd like to begin to understand how we can easily use the technology available to use today, where we can render streaming video on our PCs, and possibly be able to share with everyone. I'm certainly glad to see various user groups pop up, and more so, I'm glad that we have a good number of folks that have given the effort to start and run these groups. Now, how can we push this into the future, so that it can scale over the internet? (i.e., streaming media) We've tried to record our meetings, and it doesn't work well at that level. Lighting can be off, sound can be difficult, etc...but what if we start to focus on taking this type of production into a smaller office environment, and trying to have close-up's with the engineers, management, the community, and in a way we can all share and learn from all of it? -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 Engineering From Scott.Dickson at Sun.COM Wed Jan 25 05:38:11 2006 From: Scott.Dickson at Sun.COM (Scott Dickson - Systems Engineer) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:38:11 -0500 Subject: [ug-discuss] Second ATLOSUG Meeting Message-ID: <43D77F43.9040306@Sun.COM> It's been a couple of weeks since the Atlanta OpenSolaris UserGroup had its second meeting, but I thought a meeting recap still is in order. Don't understand really why, but after a rousing start of 53 people at the first meeting, we had *10* at the second. We moved from a really bad location at a hotel to a more central location on campus at Georgia Tech. Topic this time was targetted to folks who really want to get the source and build it, as opposed to the casual Solaris user. We beat the bushes and sent repeated reminder notes, asked Sun folks to chat this up with customers. Why the drop-off? Was it the date (right after the holidays)? Was it the content? Was it the location? Was it the way things go in Atlanta (could well be)? Now, I am sort of at a loss. What to do for our third meeting in March? We were thinking of inviting someone from Engineering to come out. Now, if I am only going to have a handful of folks, how can I justify the expense? In general, how do other user groups get the word out? What sort of size is "successful"? --SCott From Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM Thu Jan 26 08:43:56 2006 From: Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM (Eric Boutilier) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:43:56 -0600 Subject: [ug-discuss] A few lessons learned (Was: Where do we go from here...) In-Reply-To: <200601242214.48609.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> References: <43D7115D.7060905@Sun.COM> <200601242214.48609.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <43D8FC4C.2010302@Sun.COM> Alan Duboff wrote: > ... I'd like to know who here has user groups, how they're doing in general, what folks have learned from them so far ... > Hi Alan! Things are starting to take shape with the Great Lakes (Chicago) OpenSolairs user group (GLUG). There have been some very useful developments and discussions this month -- see: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ug-glug/2006-January/thread.html#start Here are a few things I've learned so far. 1. Online interest surveys are very useful and easy to conduct - We used the free service at surveymonkey.com - Initial response rate was 25% + Nagging people to do the survey boosted it to 35% + Reminding them a 2nd time boosted it to 45% 2. The Chicago Field Marketing people, especially Elaine Hepler, have been extremely helpful and supportive. - They were even willing to cover the $175 for room rental (at a community college) for our first meeting. - Elaine and her team orginize the (very popular) Chicago editions of the Solaris Bootcamps, Deep Dives, etc. Therefore, cross-polinating GLUG planning with their planning has proved absolutely _invaluable_ (I'm not exagerating). + Linda Kateley is the (Minneapolis-based) OS Ambassador who teaches the Chicago Boot Camps (as well as making regular appearances at Sun accounts in the Chicago area whenever a deep Solaris technical discussion is required), and we're taking full advantage of her willingness to speak at GLUG meetings too. + For more info on Boot Camps, etc. see Bob Netherton's blog. 3. If you're lucky someone with access to a good venue will step up. For us, that person is Chip Bennett of Laurus Technologies. (As many of you know, due to building-security and/or Sun office security and badging issues, it's extremely difficult to arrange for an after-hours meeting at most major Sun offices.) If you're really lucky, as we were, that same person will also be willing/able to do technical presentations at meetings. (Chip's a DTrace guy among other things.) 4. Finally, if you're a Sun employee leading or co-leading an (Open)Solaris user group, people's expectations of what you should be doing are based on their assumptions that it's a major part of your Sun job responsibilties (to lead/co-lead the group). It's a good idea to clear up that misconception early on. Apart from the obvious reason (sanity retention), the biggest reason to do that early is it clears the way for people who -- unbeknownst to you -- might be interested in volunteering to co-lead (or better yet, _lead_) and co-plan. Eric From Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com Wed Jan 25 23:56:43 2006 From: Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com (Alan DuBoff) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:56:43 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Reminder - January SVOSUG meeting - Thursday, Jan. 26 TONIGHT! Message-ID: <200601200123.29135.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> It was brought to my attention that the Silicon Valley OpenSolaris User Group is holding their 10th meeting tonight. We will be celebrating out 1 year anniversary in April. Thanks to all that have attended our meetings, and thanks to all of the Sun engineers that have given presentation as well as been at the meetings to help support our community. We've had a list of presentation that is has been outstanding, and my hat is off to all of the Solaris engineers that have offered their time! A reminder about tonights meeting. The famed Max Bruning will give a presentation on device drivers, how they work in Solaris, and some of the new APIs. Those of you that have taken a course at SunU by Max, know what a pack of energy he is when he presents. Meeting will take place tonight, Jan 26th, 2006, 7:30pm-10:00pm, upstairs room of SCA03, the auditorium at the Sun Santa Clara campus. Hope to see you there. When: Thursday, Jan. 26th, 2006 (TONIGHT!) Where: Sun Santa Clara Campus, SCA03 What: Max Bruning presents an Overview of Device Drivers on Solaris map: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/resources/aland/scasj_dirmap.pdf -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 Engineering From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Thu Jan 26 17:34:09 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:34:09 -0600 Subject: [ug-discuss] [Fwd: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Expert Exchange] Message-ID: <43D97891.8020108@sun.com> Forwarding my own message to the user group alias. Go ahead and pass around your user groups. Sara -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Expert Exchange Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:23:30 -0600 From: Sara Dornsife Reply-To: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems To: OpenSolaris Marketing You can hear Jim Grisanzio, Rich Teer, Al Hopper, Dan Price, Liane Praza, and Sun legal representative Cliff Allen in an Expert Exchange (read: Live Q&A) on Wednesday, February 1, from 10-11:00 AM Pacific. Go to: www.sun.com/expertexchange to sign up. ______________ Have questions about OpenSolaris project participation, and licensing, and how you can contribute to and change code? Here's your chance to get them answered! Join this Sun Expert Exchange for a live Q&A chat on the fast-growing OpenSolaris community and ask your own questions on the OpenSolaris Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), membership, and more: * OpenSolaris participation and contribution * Code sections covered under CDDL * Code modification, redistribution, and commercial use As a special incentive, we're giving away FREE T-shirts to all attendees! Don't miss this chance for an OpenSolaris "Love at First Boot" shirt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: file:///C|/DOCUME%7E1/SARADO%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/TEMP/nsmail-2.txt URL: From laurent at elanor.org Tue Jan 31 10:16:26 2006 From: laurent at elanor.org (Laurent Blume) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:16:26 +0100 Subject: [ug-discuss] [ANN] French User Group created / =?utf-8?q?cr=C3=A9ation_du_GUSE?= =?utf-8?q?S?= Message-ID: <43DFA97A.4070006@elanor.org> (traduction fran?aise plus bas / French translation below) Paris, January 31st 2006 We are proud to announce the creation of the first French-speaking OpenSolaris user group, the GUSES (?Solaris Operating System User Group?). It is legally established as an association under the 1901 law, presided by Bruno Bonfils, systems and network administrator, a Solaris user, with the help of a 5-member board. The goal of this independent association is to promote, develop operating systems based on the open-source OpenSolaris kernel from Sun Microsystems. This includes of course Solaris, the commercial version, as well as the new open and free distributions based on the same kernel. A first presentation is planned for the ?Journ?es du Libre?, June 23-25 2006 in Strasbourg, France. Sun is committed to support this new group, as it is already doing for the French Solaris mailing list, and for many user groups around the world. Paris, le 31 janvier 2006 Nous sommes heureux de vous annoncer la cr?ation du premier groupe d'utilisateurs OpenSolaris francophone, le GUSES (?Groupe d'Utilisateurs du Syst?me d'Exploitation Solaris?). Il est formalis? par une association loi 1901, pr?sid? par Bruno Bonfils, administrateur syst?me et r?seaux et utilisateur de Solaris, assist? par un conseil d'administration de 5 membres. Cette association ind?pendante a pour objet de promouvoir, populariser, et d?velopper les syst?mes d'exploitation bas?s sur le syst?me libre OpenSolaris de Sun Microsystems. Cela comprend bien s?r Solaris, la version commerciale, et les nouvelles distributions libres bas?es sur le m?me noyau. Une premi?re participation est pr?vue aux Journ?es du Libre, ? Strasbourg du 23 au 25 juin 2006. Sun s'est d?s ? pr?sent engag? ? apporter son soutien ? ce nouveau groupe, comme il le fait d?j? pour la liste de diffusion en fran?ais consacr?e ? Solaris, ainsi que pour de nombreux groupes d'utilisateurs ? travers le monde. Le site de l'association GUSES http://guses.org/ Pour plus d'informations: info at guses.org Sun Microsystems France http://sun.fr/ OpenSolaris http://opensolaris.org/ Liste de diffusion Solaris http://fr.solaris-x86.org/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Tue Jan 31 11:58:16 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:58:16 -0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFt1Zy1kaXNjdXNzXSBbQU5OXSBGcmVuY2ggVXNlciBHcm91cCA=?= =?UTF-8?B?Y3JlYXRlZCAvIGNyw6lhdGlvbiBkdSBHVVNFUw==?= In-Reply-To: <43DFA97A.4070006@elanor.org> References: <43DFA97A.4070006@elanor.org> Message-ID: <43DFC158.4080602@sun.com> Hello, Laurent. So nice to hear from you again. Congrats on forming your group in France. I'll have to visit some day. When you say Sun is committed to supporting your group, I assume you are talking about an arrangement you have with Sun in France. Is that correct? Or are you speaking more informally? Back in Sept we set up a page for your group on opensolaris.org. Please feel free to use that space to promote your group and your activities -- just as the other groups are doing here in the User Group Community. We really shouldn't keep empty pages on the site for too long. If you are not going to use the page, I'll pull it down, but we'd most welcome your content in French. :) Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ Laurent Blume wrote: > > (traduction fran?aise plus bas / French translation below) > > Paris, January 31st 2006 > > We are proud to announce the creation of the first French-speaking > OpenSolaris user group, the GUSES (?Solaris Operating System User > Group?). It is legally established as an association under the 1901 law, > presided by Bruno Bonfils, systems and network administrator, a Solaris > user, with the help of a 5-member board. > > The goal of this independent association is to promote, develop > operating systems based on the open-source OpenSolaris kernel from Sun > Microsystems. This includes of course Solaris, the commercial version, > as well as the new open and free distributions based on the same kernel. > A first presentation is planned for the ?Journ?es du Libre?, June 23-25 > 2006 in Strasbourg, France. > > Sun is committed to support this new group, as it is already doing for > the French Solaris mailing list, and for many user groups around the world. > > > Paris, le 31 janvier 2006 > > Nous sommes heureux de vous annoncer la cr?ation du premier groupe > d'utilisateurs OpenSolaris francophone, le GUSES (?Groupe d'Utilisateurs > du Syst?me d'Exploitation Solaris?). > Il est formalis? par une association loi 1901, pr?sid? par Bruno > Bonfils, administrateur syst?me et r?seaux et utilisateur de Solaris, > assist? par un conseil d'administration de 5 membres. > > Cette association ind?pendante a pour objet de promouvoir, populariser, > et d?velopper les syst?mes d'exploitation bas?s sur le syst?me libre > OpenSolaris de Sun Microsystems. Cela comprend bien s?r Solaris, la > version commerciale, et les nouvelles distributions libres bas?es sur le > m?me noyau. Une premi?re participation est pr?vue aux Journ?es du Libre, > ? Strasbourg du 23 au 25 juin 2006. > > Sun s'est d?s ? pr?sent engag? ? apporter son soutien ? ce nouveau > groupe, comme il le fait d?j? pour la liste de diffusion en fran?ais > consacr?e ? Solaris, ainsi que pour de nombreux groupes d'utilisateurs ? > travers le monde. > > > > Le site de l'association GUSES > http://guses.org/ > > Pour plus d'informations: > info at guses.org > > Sun Microsystems France > http://sun.fr/ > > OpenSolaris > http://opensolaris.org/ > > Liste de diffusion Solaris > http://fr.solaris-x86.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > ug-discuss mailing list > ug-discuss at opensolaris.org From laurent at elanor.org Tue Jan 31 12:51:20 2006 From: laurent at elanor.org (Laurent Blume) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:51:20 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFt1Zy1kaXNjdXNzXSBbQU5OXSBGcmVuY2ggVXNlciBHcm91cCA=?= =?UTF-8?B?Y3JlYXRlZCAvIGNyw6lhdGlvbiBkdSBHVVNFUw==?= In-Reply-To: <43DFC158.4080602@sun.com> References: <43DFA97A.4070006@elanor.org> <43DFC158.4080602@sun.com> Message-ID: <43DFCDC8.5010403@elanor.org> Jim Grisanzio wrote: > So nice to hear from you again. Congrats on forming your group in > France. I'll have to visit some day. Sorry for not doing it earlier, but lots of work and 2 weeks of vacations in California got in the middle :-) > When you say Sun is committed to supporting your group, I assume you are > talking about an arrangement you have with Sun in France. Is that > correct? Or are you speaking more informally? We've been in contact with them for some already. They preferred the formal association for easier legal communication and help with resources, such as lending a room for meetings. Also, yesterday, somebody from marketing (I think) called Bruno Bonfils to get information for an official Sun France press release. It was going to be distributed today, at a Linux Solutions event in Paris. I don't know yet if that's been done, I sure hope so! Now, we'll have to talk to them to prepare meetings, and maybe get speakers, and swag. Obviously, French-speaking ones will be preferred, but we thought that having a few English-speaking ones would be very valuable. Personalities, such as yourself, can obviously be of great interest! > Back in Sept we set up a page for your group on opensolaris.org. Please > feel free to use that space to promote your group and your activities -- > just as the other groups are doing here in the User Group Community. We > really shouldn't keep empty pages on the site for too long. If you are > not going to use the page, I'll pull it down, but we'd most welcome your > content in French. :) Yes, I've been late on that side too. One of the reason is that there is already the Sun-sponsored Solaris fr list, and we weren't sure about how to move it to the OpenSolaris server. But right now, I'd be very happy to have access to that page, and fill it up, present the group and give more links. Is that possible? Whom to contact? Also, what is the possibility of a mailing list there? I admit I'm unsure about what would be the best to migrate the existing Solaris fr list (which is about all kinds of Solaris): part of the ug-* list, like ug-guses at opensolaris, or something like the Romanian list, which is ro-users-discuss, and not really part of the OpenSolaris site. (and of course, ug-frosug has already been stealthily stolen ;-) Basically, would all Solaris topics fit in an ug- list, including technical and assistance questions for older versions? Thanks for your help! Laurent From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Tue Jan 31 15:45:16 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:45:16 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Where do we go from here? In-Reply-To: <200601242214.48609.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> References: <43D7115D.7060905@Sun.COM> <200601242214.48609.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> Message-ID: <43DFF68C.5090905@sun.com> Alan DuBoff wrote: > I'd like to know who here has user groups, how they're doing in general, what > folks have learned from them so far. I've created and run at least 4 or 5 > groups in the past, one going back to the early 80s in Japan, which still to > this day meets (they're having a tough time staying together though, as it > was a pay-membership user group). I've ran user groups both Microsoft > and IBM on different occasions, and now Sun. > > What I strive for now is a way to bring this same information, tutorials, and > training material over the web through streaming media. I'd like to use the > RealPlayer to deliver the content on the client side, since we now have a > current RealPlayer. If possibly I'd like to keep all the formats open and > free, so if we can use vorbis and/or ogg as the content, that would be nice > also. This is one important thing I've learned over the years (and the HARD > way;-), in that user groups should be free. Free software is not new, public > domain software existed for years going back to the early days of the > computer. OpenSource is a new label on top of it, and what has mainly changed > is the infrastucture around us, mainly the internet. > > A user group is a place to socialize, a place to talk to live people, and a > place to learn things. As a whole, it seems that all of our user groups can > help contribute to this online cause, to get people from both the community > and Sun to help with content. We can provide better content than just a local > meeting, I believe as a whole we can all contribute and create an amazing > resource of online information. > > Sorry for this long message, but I'd like to begin to understand how we can > easily use the technology available to use today, where we can render > streaming video on our PCs, and possibly be able to share with everyone. I'm > certainly glad to see various user groups pop up, and more so, I'm glad that > we have a good number of folks that have given the effort to start and run > these groups. > > Now, how can we push this into the future, so that it can scale over the > internet? (i.e., streaming media) > > We've tried to record our meetings, and it doesn't work well at that level. > Lighting can be off, sound can be difficult, etc...but what if we start to > focus on taking this type of production into a smaller office environment, > and trying to have close-up's with the engineers, management, the community, > and in a way we can all share and learn from all of it? Thanks, Alan. Excellent ideas. We formed a Content Project (http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/content/) yesterday, so as that develops I'd like to start finding people who can produce video content that we can stream from the site. I think the SVOSUG has already been successful in this, but I agree that we can take that concept right into offices to meet people for one-on-one type interviews and do demos and tutorials, etc. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Tue Jan 31 15:37:32 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:37:32 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] OpenSolaris User Groups Message-ID: <43DFF4BC.5030704@sun.com> Hello, everyone. I'm sending this to all the user group lists since there are a lot of new people who have joined the User Group Community in the last few months. Hundreds of people, actually. It's exciting to see all the different languages fly by. You are all welcome -- especially the new people -- to sign up to ug-discuss if you'd like to communicate with people in the other groups without cc'ing multiple lists like I have. :) You can sign up here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ So, congratulations to all the new user groups and welcome to all the new people in those groups! As you have your meetings, you are all welcome to post your materials to ug-discuss if you'd like to share your content. Tim Foster is posting presentations, photos, and videos here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/os-presentations/ If you haven't seen this page recently, it's quite impressive. Thanks for sharing all that content, and thanks to Tim for managing it. People have noticed, too, believe me. Also, you are all welcome to contribute to the OpenSolaris Community Newsletter. I talked about this in a post to the main community list: https://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=5520&tstart=0 I'd like to give the user groups as much exposure in the newsletter as I can. Best, Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Tue Jan 31 15:59:48 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:59:48 -0800 Subject: [ug-discuss] Turkey OpenSolaris User Group Message-ID: <43DFF9F4.6040609@sun.com> Welcome to the Turkey OpenSolaris User Group: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/tosug/ Omer ... you can edit this page above. Also, Eric should have your list set up as well. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/