From Martin.Man at Sun.COM Thu Jun 1 07:35:03 2006 From: Martin.Man at Sun.COM (Martin Man) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:35:03 +0200 Subject: [ug-discuss] Coordination of user group activities Message-ID: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> Hi All, The coordination activities of our group CZOSUG are starting to take a lot of CC, and private email exchange. I was wondering if it is possible to set up kind of an invisible moderated invite-only private mailing list for the inhouse discussions of user groups? something like ug-czosug-private at osol.org? Another thing is a wiki at opensolaris.org, note that I have no idea how update of web pages happens right now, but I hope I'm not mistaken when I say that it has no wiki underneath.... what do you think? thanx, Martin From venky.tv at sun.com Thu Jun 1 08:42:20 2006 From: venky.tv at sun.com (Venky) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 21:12:20 +0530 Subject: [ug-discuss] Coordination of user group activities In-Reply-To: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> References: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <20060601154219.GS11534@india.sun.com> > Another thing is a wiki at opensolaris.org, note that I have no idea how > update of web pages happens right now, but I hope I'm not mistaken > when I say that it has no wiki underneath.... OpenSolaris.ORG is not a wiki. The official OpenSolaris wiki is here: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/ We should probably link to this prominently from the opensolaris.org website. Right now, the only link I can find is from the Desktop Community: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/desktop_wiki/ Venky. From sch at eng.sun.com Thu Jun 1 11:20:20 2006 From: sch at eng.sun.com (Stephen Hahn) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:20:20 -0700 Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: [website-discuss] Coordination of user group activities In-Reply-To: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> References: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <20060601182020.GA102001@eng.sun.com> * Martin Man [2006-06-01 07:51]: > Hi All, > > The coordination activities of our group CZOSUG are starting to take a > lot of CC, and private email exchange. > > I was wondering if it is possible to set up kind of an invisible > moderated invite-only private mailing list for the inhouse discussions > of user groups? something like ug-czosug-private at osol.org? I don't see a problem with offering user groups private administrative aliases. Do they really need to be invite-only and moderated? Do user groups also want -announce aliases? > Another thing is a wiki at opensolaris.org, note that I have no idea how > update of web pages happens right now, but I hope I'm not mistaken > when I say that it has no wiki underneath.... We don't currently have a generic wiki extension to the site's content management as a high priority: the content management is believed acceptable, given other defects/gaps we need to address. genunix.org is offering a MediaWiki installation for community use. (Perhaps you have a specific issue with the content management?) - Stephen -- Stephen Hahn, PhD Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems stephen.hahn at sun.com http://blogs.sun.com/sch/ From Martin.Man at Sun.COM Fri Jun 2 00:01:17 2006 From: Martin.Man at Sun.COM (Martin Man) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:01:17 +0200 Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: [website-discuss] Coordination of user group activities In-Reply-To: <20060601182020.GA102001@eng.sun.com> References: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> <20060601182020.GA102001@eng.sun.com> Message-ID: <447FE23D.70404@sun.com> Hi Stephen, Stephen Hahn wrote: > * Martin Man [2006-06-01 07:51]: >> Hi All, >> >> I was wondering if it is possible to set up kind of an invisible >> moderated invite-only private mailing list for the inhouse discussions >> of user groups? something like ug-czosug-private at osol.org? > > I don't see a problem with offering user groups private administrative > aliases. Do they really need to be invite-only and moderated? Do > user groups also want -announce aliases? Don't know what other groups, for CZOSUG, I think we are missing only private mailing list, announce is done through the user group mailing list, since it's fairly low-to-moderate traffic... The -private list should be definitely subscribers-only-can-post and invisible from the listing, since it serves the purpose of background coordination activities before they can be published (mostly administration tasks that just generate lot of noise). New subscribtions should probably be controllable by the moderator, that's why I said invite-only... >> Another thing is a wiki at opensolaris.org, note that I have no idea how >> update of web pages happens right now, but I hope I'm not mistaken >> when I say that it has no wiki underneath.... > > We don't currently have a generic wiki extension to the site's content > management as a high priority: the content management is believed > acceptable, given other defects/gaps we need to address. genunix.org > is offering a MediaWiki installation for community use. (Perhaps you > have a specific issue with the content management?) Not at all, it was just that wiki is generally very easy/fast to use from anywhere for (well almost) anyone. I think making genunix wiki semi-official would be enough for the moment... > - Stephen thanx, Martin From Martin.Man at Sun.COM Fri Jun 2 00:02:37 2006 From: Martin.Man at Sun.COM (Martin Man) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:02:37 +0200 Subject: [ug-discuss] Coordination of user group activities In-Reply-To: <20060601154219.GS11534@india.sun.com> References: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> <20060601154219.GS11534@india.sun.com> Message-ID: <447FE28D.9070202@sun.com> Venky wrote: > OpenSolaris.ORG is not a wiki. The official OpenSolaris wiki is > here: > http://www.genunix.org/wiki/ > > We should probably link to this prominently from the opensolaris.org > website. Right now, the only link I can find is from the Desktop > Community: > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/desktop_wiki/ I have seen genunix, if you (and others) consider it semi-official for osol.org purposes, I'm +1 for adding it to some prominent place at opensolaris.org > Venky. thanx, Martin Man From Martin.Man at Sun.COM Tue Jun 6 00:07:10 2006 From: Martin.Man at Sun.COM (Martin Man) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:07:10 +0200 Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: [website-discuss] Coordination of user group activities In-Reply-To: <448523A2.5030108@sun.com> References: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> <20060601182020.GA102001@eng.sun.com> <447FE23D.70404@sun.com> <448523A2.5030108@sun.com> Message-ID: <4485299E.6050400@sun.com> Hi all, Glynn Foster wrote: > Hi, > > Martin Man wrote: >> The -private list should be definitely subscribers-only-can-post and >> invisible from the listing, since it serves the purpose of background >> coordination activities before they can be published (mostly >> administration tasks that just generate lot of noise). New >> subscribtions should probably be controllable by the moderator, that's >> why I said invite-only... > > Why don't you have a list like ug-czosug-committee, with public > archives, that has moderated postings for non-members? Having a > '-private' list, with private archives seems a little 'closed' for my > liking. I agree with you (and there were also other voices) trying to persuade me that these should be open. I have actually nothing against being open, and I'm also always promoting it, but there are things that better remain closed until the peers confirm that they can be open. When we are for example trying to invite spekers or book a room for presentations, we all (who are coordinating the event) need to be CCed and informed what's going on, but the other party of the discussion might not necessarily agree to take the discussion to ug-czosug at osol just because we never know what they think at all. From my point of view, emailing them and CCing the public list might even seem a bit offensive and presure-generating on them, which is not at all what we want to do... perception matters.... > Just my 2 cent.. > Glynn thanx, Martin From Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM Mon Jun 5 23:41:38 2006 From: Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM (Glynn Foster) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 18:41:38 +1200 Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: [website-discuss] Coordination of user group activities In-Reply-To: <447FE23D.70404@sun.com> References: <447EFB17.6070105@Sun.COM> <20060601182020.GA102001@eng.sun.com> <447FE23D.70404@sun.com> Message-ID: <448523A2.5030108@sun.com> Hi, Martin Man wrote: > The -private list should be definitely subscribers-only-can-post and > invisible from the listing, since it serves the purpose of background > coordination activities before they can be published (mostly > administration tasks that just generate lot of noise). New subscribtions > should probably be controllable by the moderator, that's why I said > invite-only... Why don't you have a list like ug-czosug-committee, with public archives, that has moderated postings for non-members? Having a '-private' list, with private archives seems a little 'closed' for my liking. Just my 2 cent.. Glynn From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM Fri Jun 9 08:44:02 2006 From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:44:02 +0100 Subject: [ug-discuss] 2nd Irish OpenSolaris User Group meeting Message-ID: <1149867843.14273.94.camel@haiiro> Hi All, Just to let you know, we're going to be holding our 2nd user group meeting on June 14th (that's this coming Wednesday!) in the Sun offices in Dublin. It's short notice I know, but we felt we had to do something to coincide with the upcoming 1-year anniversary of OpenSolaris! There's more details in a blog post at: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/timf?entry=2nd_irish_opensolaris_user_group At the meeting we're going to try to give you a quick overview of everything that's been happening with OpenSolaris over the last year (which may take a while!), and Mike Byrne has agreed to give us a fly-through of ZFS : sounds interesting! We'd love you to come along, just let us know in advance, so we can issue you with a building-pass for the evening. See you there! cheers, tim -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From milek at task.gda.pl Sun Jun 11 16:42:18 2006 From: milek at task.gda.pl (Robert Milkowski) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:42:18 PDT Subject: [ug-discuss] Polish Open Solaris User Group Message-ID: <23903922.1150069379190.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Hi. We (I and my friend) would like to setup Polish OSUG - PLOSUG. Initial leaders would be: Robert Milkowski . What else should we do to get PLOSUG alive? Hope we can setup this before 14th so we can have our first official meeting just to celebrate Open Solaris's first year - however in a really small group at the beginning :) But it could be a great start. This message posted from opensolaris.org From jim.grisanzio at sun.com Sun Jun 11 18:49:09 2006 From: jim.grisanzio at sun.com (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:49:09 PDT Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: Polish Open Solaris User Group In-Reply-To: <23903922.1150069379190.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: <4833085.1150076979330.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Cool. I just added you guys to the user group community so you can edit your page. Will send you that link shortly. JIm > Hi. > > We (I and my friend) would like to setup Polish > OSUG - PLOSUG. > > > Initial leaders would be: Robert Milkowski > . > > What else should we do to get PLOSUG alive? > > Hope we can setup this before 14th so we can have our > first official meeting just to celebrate Open > Solaris's first year - however in a really small > group at the beginning :) > But it could be a great start. This message posted from opensolaris.org From milek at task.gda.pl Mon Jun 12 02:02:55 2006 From: milek at task.gda.pl (Robert Milkowski) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:02:55 PDT Subject: [ug-discuss] Re: Polish Open Solaris User Group In-Reply-To: <4833085.1150076979330.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: <21966618.1150103005947.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Great! Waiting for a link. This message posted from opensolaris.org From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Jun 12 07:05:01 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:05:01 -0400 Subject: [ug-discuss] Polish Open Solaris User Group In-Reply-To: <23903922.1150069379190.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> References: <23903922.1150069379190.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: <448D748D.2080004@sun.com> Hi! I'll get your page set up ASAP--and we'll get you a group email alias as well! Great that you'll try to get together for a 1st anniversary meeting. Be sure to hit the Marketing community for any artwork, badges or tags you need to get your page properly "attired" for it's debut! Stay tuned. You'll be up within the hour. Cheers, LKR Robert Milkowski wrote: >Hi. > > We (I and my friend) would like to setup Polish OSUG - PLOSUG. > > >Initial leaders would be: Robert Milkowski . > >What else should we do to get PLOSUG alive? > >Hope we can setup this before 14th so we can have our first official meeting just to celebrate Open Solaris's first year - however in a really small group at the beginning :) >But it could be a great start. > > >This message posted from opensolaris.org >_______________________________________________ >ug-discuss mailing list >ug-discuss at opensolaris.org > > From Virginia.Wray at Sun.COM Tue Jun 20 11:01:21 2006 From: Virginia.Wray at Sun.COM (Virginia Wray) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:01:21 -0600 Subject: [ug-discuss] FROSUG June Meeting Announcement Message-ID: <449837F1.1080807@Sun.COM> This month we celebrate the first anniversary of OpenSolaris! We are sponsoring an Installfest as well as a presentation this month, so if you haven't installed OpenSolaris yet, or if you would like to update to the latest build, bring your laptop, and we'll help you get it installed. To save time, please try to backup your data before the Installfest. A tool that several FROSUG members have used successfully to back up their own systems is G4U. Take a look at http://www.feyrer.de/g4u for information on G4U, and see if it would work for your system. Last month, our presentation included guidelines for using this utility. Go to http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/frosug/install/ and view Dave Hagerty's presentation. In keeping with the install theme, Sanjay Nadkarni, our presenter this month, will be talking about the the future of install, upgrade, and the patch and packaging tools. Sanjay Nadkarni has been working on Unix operating system internals for over 18 years. For the past 8 years he has been a key developer of the Solaris Volume Manager. He holds degrees in Computer Science and Computer Engineering from Syracuse University. Here are the meeting details: Presenter: Sanjay Nadkarni Topic: The Future of Install on OpenSolaris Where: Conference Center, Bldg #1 - Sun Broomfield Campus 500 Eldorado Blvd. Broomfield, CO 80021 When: Tuesday, June 27th, 2006 Time: 5:30 (installfest begins) 6:00 (Pizza) 6:30 (Presentation) Please RSVP. We'll be serving pizza and need a head count for how much to order. We look forward to seeing you! FROSUG From Virginia.Wray at Sun.COM Mon Jun 26 08:44:52 2006 From: Virginia.Wray at Sun.COM (Virginia Wray) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:44:52 -0600 Subject: [ug-discuss] FROSUG June Meeting Announcement Message-ID: <44A000F4.8020206@Sun.COM> This is tomorrow night....hope to see you there! This month we celebrate the first anniversary of OpenSolaris! We are sponsoring an Installfest as well as a presentation this month, so if you haven't installed OpenSolaris yet, or if you would like to update to the latest build, bring your laptop, and we'll help you get it installed. To save time, please try to backup your data before the Installfest. A tool that several FROSUG members have used successfully to back up their own systems is G4U. Take a look at http://www.feyrer.de/g4u for information on G4U, and see if it would work for your system. Last month, our presentation included guidelines for using this utility. Go to http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/frosug/install/ and view Dave Hagerty's presentation. In keeping with the install theme, Sanjay Nadkarni, our presenter this month, will be talking about the the future of install, upgrade, and the patch and packaging tools. Sanjay Nadkarni has been working on Unix operating system internals for over 18 years. For the past 8 years he has been a key developer of the Solaris Volume Manager. He holds degrees in Computer Science and Computer Engineering from Syracuse University. Here are the meeting details: Presenter: Sanjay Nadkarni Topic: The Future of Install on OpenSolaris Where: Conference Center, Bldg #1 - Sun Broomfield Campus 500 Eldorado Blvd. Broomfield, CO 80021 When: Tuesday, June 27th, 2006 Time: 5:30 (installfest begins) 6:00 (Pizza) 6:30 (Presentation) Please RSVP. We'll be serving pizza and need a head count for how much to order. We look forward to seeing you! FROSUG From Fintan.Ryan at Sun.COM Mon Jun 26 09:48:51 2006 From: Fintan.Ryan at Sun.COM (Fintan Ryan) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:48:51 +0100 Subject: [ug-discuss] IE-OSUG @ ApacheCon Europe Message-ID: <44A00FF3.1060704@sun.com> Hi, ApacheCon Europe kicked off today, and conveniently for us its on in Dublin this year. Sean [1], Nicky [2], possibly Tim [3], (a guest appearance on returning from his holidays) and I will be floating around at various times from Wednesday to Friday, wearing our Irish OpenSolaris Users Group caps (okay not literally in my case, baseball caps just don't suit) at the Sun booth. If your attending feel free to call by for a general chat, or more detailed questions. We will have iso's of the various distros with us if you want to try the live cd's of Nextena, Belenix and SchilliX, or the latest release of Solaris Express. - Fintan [1] http://blogs.sun.com/smg [2] http://blogs.sun.com/nickyv [3] http://blogs.sun.com/timf -- fintanr at sun.com http://blogs.sun.com/fintanr @dub03 http://www.opensolaris.org From Scott.Dickson at Sun.COM Wed Jun 28 11:11:31 2006 From: Scott.Dickson at Sun.COM (Scott Dickson) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:11:31 -0400 Subject: [ug-discuss] Atlanta OpenSolaris User Group - July 11 Message-ID: <44A2C653.80008@Sun.Com> As we at Sun prepare for our summer break, I wanted to remind everyone of the upcoming Atlanta OpenSolaris User Group meeting in two weeks. ATLOSUG will meet Tuesday, July 11, from 7-9 PM in the Sun Office on Old Milton Parkway in Alpharetta, Georgia. Our speaker for this meeting will be Alok Aggarwal from Sun's Solaris Engineering Group. Alok is going to talk about NFSv4 and the new features that it brings to the table. For many people, the advances found in NFSv4 make NFS much more attractive for use throughout the enterprise. Please RSVP to me so that we can have a count for refreshments. Directions and more information about ATLOSUG can be found at http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/atl-osug/ --SCott From Milan.Jurik at Sun.COM Thu Jun 29 03:23:33 2006 From: Milan.Jurik at Sun.COM (Milan Jurik) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:23:33 +0200 Subject: [ug-discuss] Special CZOSUG Meeting Message-ID: <1151576613.852.37.camel@localhost> Hello everybody, because of summer time there is no plan to have traditional CZOSUG meeting in traditional time and on traditional places. Despite it I would like to invite you for special meeting, which will be held on Tuesday, July 11, 2006. This time we will have only one presentation, Darryl Gove, senior staff engineer from SPARC compiler team, will present "Cool Tools for SPARC Systems" (http://cooltools.sunsource.net). The meeting will be in the premises of Sun Microsystems, V Parku 8, Praha Chodov. The meeting will start in nontraditional time, at 2pm. Best regards, Milan Jurik