[ug-discuss] Re: [osol-mktg] Sponsor Project Indiana

[Stephen Lau]

Simon Phipps wrote:
> 
> On Jun 6, 2007, at 16:14, Stephen Lau wrote:
> 
>> Simon Phipps wrote:
>>> I'm afraid I don't agree on either count.
>>> This is an engineering project. It is not Marketing or Advocacy. It 
>>> should be in a place where co-development engineers will participate. 
>>> That is not here.
>>
>> But isn't part of Indiana about addressing the perceived needs of 
>> non-Solaris users?  Doesn't that involve marketing and advocacy?
> 
> In which case many other aspects of OpenSolaris belong here. I'd suggest 
> though that a "Distributions" community is a more appropriate venue.

Agreed.  Though, for the time being, since the "Distributions" community 
doesn't exist - I think it's reasonable for Mktg/Ug/Advocacy to sponsor 
it instead.  But again, that should be up to the core contributors of 
said community.

>>> Secondly, the name. If there is exactly one distribution developed 
>>> within the OpenSolaris community, it will be called "the OpenSolaris 
>>> distribution" whatever artificial attempts are made to name it 
>>> something else.
>>
>> But there isn't exactly one distribution... we have 5 that I count 
>> (not including Indiana).  Indiana will only be called "the OpenSolaris 
>> distribution" if people insist on it.  That's what I'm opposed to.
> 
> Right now there exactly zero distributions developed withing the 
> community - that's not my words, that (as Laurent points out elsewhere) 
> is how we describe ourselves on http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/ :
>> The main difference between the OpenSolaris project and the Solaris 
>> Operating System is that the OpenSolaris project does not provide an 
>> end-user product or complete distribution.
> 
> What multiple people have suggested is it's time to change that as it is 
> confusing for newcomers. I completely support that change.

Incorrect.  You are misreading "OpenSolaris project" as "OpenSolaris 
community".  That text states that "the OpenSolaris project" doesn't 
provide a distribution, not the OpenSolaris community.  I agree the text 
is confusing; but the point it's trying to make is what our initial 
message of OpenSolaris has always stated:

	OpenSolaris is a set of source code from which others base distributions.

This has always been 100% true and correct.  Others within the community 
(including Sun) have derived binary distributions based on OpenSolaris 
source code.

So I disagree that there are exactly zero distributions developed within 
the community.

cheers,
steve
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