[ug-glug] Reminder: Next meeting now Feb 7

[Jess Balint]

Eric & David,

I also missed the first meeting because I didn't hear about it. However, I
don't place the blame on anybody for this. Now that I have heard of it, I am
subscribed to this list hearing frequent updates.

Maybe it wasn't the best idea to move the meeting within a few days of the
original date, but it's done. However this is a BRAND NEW user group. I
don't think there is anything to complain about. If I didn't like it, maybe
a small suggestion would be in order or I could unsubscribe. If this had
been going on month after month in an established group, then I would
believe it to be problematic.

>From what I've seen so far on this list, I am confident that Eric and the
leaders can make this work without a problem. There are already multiple
future meetings planned with interesting topics and guests with in-depth
knowledge on them.

Conclusion:
Eric: Thumbs up
David: Thumbs down

Jess

-----Original Message-----
From: ug-glug-bounces at opensolaris.org
[mailto:ug-glug-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Eric Boutilier
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:15 PM
To: ug-glug at opensolaris.org
Subject: [ug-glug] Reminder: Next meeting now Feb 7

There are a number of things that I take exception with below, but 
mostly a number of assertions stated as facts that I believe are not 
accurate. I can get into it if people think it would be worthwhile.

--Eric

P.S. I for one think that the co-leaders have actually done a very good 
job of informing people of the meeting date change. But that's just _my_ 
opinion and me being one of the co-leaders in question means it's a very 
biased one.

David Braun wrote:

>Respectfully, it's hard to take this group seriously, as you can't get your
act together on even the most elementary matters.  I would not be at all
surprised if one or more people show up tonight for the meeting-that-isn't.
If any do, do you really expect them to return for the "real" meeting next
week?  Perhaps you should change the location the night before, "just in
case" they do show up.
>
>I've been checking your web page linked via UniForum Chicago regularly and
today is the first day it mentions the date change.  [b]Chip Bennett's
posting dated Jan 31 at 4:26 PM is the first message with the title "Next
meeting now Feb 7".[/b]  If there is any earlier reference to the date
change it is buried in some unrelated thread.
>
>In view of the pervasive lack of planning, direction, communication and
follow-through, organizers seem to be aiming for mediocrity for this group.
You're dropping the ball on stuff that isn't even strategically difficult or
content-related.  My expectations are dropping precipitously, even as I
remain delighted with the OpenSolaris project itself.
>
>I missed the inaugural meeting because I only found out about it --
accidentally -- the morning after it was over. How discouraging.  I wasn't
even notified -- even though I joined OpenSolaris the day the project was
launched.  I should have been an obvious target -- because of my involvement
and [b]known [/b]suburban location -- for promotion of the nascent local
user's group.  Apparently not.  Either organizers didn't have access to the
general mailing list for OpenSolaris news (doubtful) or they didn't bother
to utilize it (likely).  It would be bizarre indeed if Sun refused them
access to contact information.
>
>Here it is a full three months later, with meeting number [b]two[/b] still
future, and a potential hand grenade is thrown into the midst of the group
-- by its own planners.  [b]No one should have to investigate the very day
of a definitely scheduled meeting to see if it is still on.[/b]  The moment
the adjective "tentative" is removed from the day, time, location and topic,
these should be set in stone.  Everyone should be able to mark their
calendars, consult MapQuest [b]once[/b], and show up for the meeting without
any further communication.  That's only basic logistics.
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